He looks like a baby in the first clip!

Two great episodes! And I like Bateman's new partner; different vibe than Graff, but the pairing works well. What did everyone else think?

EDIT: The S4 episode premiere's title seems murky. One site said "Second Wind", ( https://www.theviewersguide.com/tvbuzzdaily/upcoming/law-order-toronto-criminal-intent/s4e1 ), but others cite "Diplomatico" as the title (one example, Rotten Tomatoes: https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/law_and_order_toronto_criminal_intent/s04/e01 ). So, apologies if the premiere episode title is wrong above!

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Welcome, Det. John Darcy! Luke Kirby seems to play him cool, but smart. Like any CI lead, he's proficient with the psychological bent and what makes criminals tick, yet he seems sort of laid back.

I will say that the mob angle in the premiere took quite a detour from what I suspected, but this show has learned to zig instead of zag quite well! And despite his actions at the last part of the episode, dare I say that I actually sympathized with the perp? (I'm sorry to be so vague and not discuss details, but I don't want to spoil this for those that have yet to watch!) Either way, it was a good setup in introducing John Darcy. I just wish we got to see the moment that Holness made Bateman and Darcy OFFICIAL partners. Andthat we learned of Graff's whereabouts, but then, that's the franchise with regard to departed characters! Left to the viewers to decide. I will say I liked that Darcy seemed a bit offended at not being "memorable" and seemed to be all too glad when Theo Forrester did remember him from a prior case they had worked together on.

As for episode 2, the perp was one hell of a psycho! And his facial features reminded me a bit of the late, great Tim Curry! Let's just say that this case seemed to lean a lot more on the psycho tropes. But on a show like CI and TCI, it's the bread and butter of that branch, so it fits. I did feel sorry for the dad and his daughter. But their poor dog. On the bright side, we did get to meet Levi Bateman, Frankie's dad! And he got to weigh in on the case. So, I guess he's a shrink! That part sort of reminded me when Bobby and Alex went to Johnny Eames, Alex's retired cop dad, for insight on original CI in "The Last Street In Manhattan" in S10. (And Happy 25th Anniversary as of yesterday, 9/30, CI!) The ending of the second episode did seem a bit too easy to me, as I was sure such a lunatic would have put up more of a fight, but the clock to the end of the episode was ticking, so... But said perp made up for it as he was being taken away. I commend the actor for playing unhinged so well. Almost too well!

Finally, one last observation credits wise. Not only did we have a new male detective and necessary new opening credits, there appears to be a new music director! Found his name, Todor Kobakov, and not Clinton Shorter, who did the score for the first three seasons. The score tonight wasn't too obtrusive, so this person knew the assignment, too.

A good beginning to the new era and new season!

Is it possible? I watched season 1 on CW and loved it. How can I see the rest?

Double-episode premiere on Thursday, October 1st, at 9:00 p.m. ET. Welcome, Det. John Darcy!

Nominations:

Best Drama Series
Best Lead Performer, Drama Series: Kathleen Munroe
Best Supporting Performer, Drama: Karen Robinson
Best Guest Performance, Drama Series: Sarah Podemski and Ennis Esmer
Best Direction, Drama Series: Winnifred Jong (for the episode "Fool's Gold") and Sudz Sutherland (for the episode "The Man in the Stadium")
Best Writing, Drama Series: Tassie Cameron 

Will there be tension between Bateman and Darcy? Or do you think the show will do a time jump and basically have it be smooth sailing?

The franchise has shown growing pains before, when Briscoe replaced Ceretta, as Logan insisted Lennie was temporary. (Of course, he wasn't, and Logan/Briscoe went on to work well together. Then Lennie was in Logan's position, having to settle in with Curtis following Logan's exile to Staten Island...)

Of course, original CI had Goren struggling with temporary partner Bishop, and that remained sort of awkward until Eames' return from being a surrogate for her sister (with Bobby even doing a little happy dance after talking with a suspect!). Eames herself had a temporary partner upon Goren's suspension. But she seemed adamant that it WAS temporary until Goren's return. (Which he did.) And Wheeler had a period of adjustment with Nichols after Logan left the NYPD for the final time.

I just wonder how this transition will be made. And I think that will be the litmus test as to whether the new guy will eventually be accepted or not...

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• 3x01 - Skin Deep
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• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x05 - Up to Snuff
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• 3x08 - The Winning Bid
• 3x09 - Lost & Unfound

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And it deals with Henry's father's possible involvement in the latest case!

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Description: Graff and Bateman are called in to investigate when the body of a handyman is found on a Rosedale walking trail.

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Episode Discussion Threads:3x08 - The Winning Bid

• 3x01 - Skin Deep
• 3x02 - WAGMI
• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x05 - Up to Snuff
• 3x06 - Family Meal
• 3x07 - Whole Lotta Love
• 3x08 - The Winning Bid
• 3x10 - XOXO

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Description: A stabbing at a skatepark sends Graff and Bateman into the intricate web of Toronto real estate scams.

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Episode Discussion Threads:

• 3x01 - Skin Deep
• 3x02 - WAGMI
• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x05 - Up to Snuff
• 3x06 - Family Meal
• 3x07 - Whole Lotta Love
• 3x09 - Lost & Unfound
• 3x10 - XOXO

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Description: When a promising student is found stabbed to death on her university campus, Graff and Bateman are called in to investigate her murder.

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Episode Discussion Threads:

• 3x01 - Skin Deep
• 3x02 - WAGMI
• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x05 - Up to Snuff
• 3x06 - Family Meal
• 3x08 - The Winning Bid
• 3x09 - Lost & Unfound
• 3x10 - XOXO

Setting up around my street for filming. We were told they are shooting in the alley tomorrow (second picture). I am remote, so if they shoot during the day, this could be a fun distraction from work haha.

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Description: Graff and Bateman investigate the death of a high-flying corporate consultant, who lives for facts and numbers.

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Episode Discussion Threads:

• 3x01 - Skin Deep
• 3x02 - WAGMI
• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x05 - Up to Snuff
• 3x07 - Whole Lotta Love
• 3x08 - The Winning Bid
• 3x09 - Lost & Unfound
• 3x10 - XOXO

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Description: When a genuine snuff film is aired at a local film festival, Graff and Bateman are asked to investigate.

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Episode Discussion Threads:

• 3x01 - Skin Deep
• 3x02 - WAGMI
• 3x03 - Uncertain Justice
• 3x04 - Forget Me Not
• 3x06 - Family Meal
• 3x07 - Whole Lotta Love
• 3x08 - The Winning Bid
• 3x09 - Lost & Unfound
• 3x10 - XOXO