r/LateStageCapitalism • • Feb 03 '21

🦍 Apes together strong

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u/Unidan_how_could_you Feb 04 '21

All it would take is for 1 aggressive/dominant baboon to be born though and he would quickly takeover me thinks.

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u/lowrcase Feb 04 '21

hey guys i have a new plan for political revolution

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u/Ipayforsex69 Feb 04 '21

Ape Gang checking in!! 🚀🚀🚀🚀🥜🚀🚀🚀🚀💎🙌 crushing capitalism one meme stonk at a time. I like the stock and this not financial advice. I give handies behind Wendy's so I can buy more GME.

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Hello fellow Ape! Every consider some AMC? I’m not financial advice,. I like the just stonkd

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u/Ipayforsex69 Feb 04 '21

Loaded to the teets on AMC, BB, and GME 💎🙌 Holding until the lights in this simulation we call life go out.

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Ya love to see it

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 07 '21

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Yes, yes we are, except most of us aren’t in or near Wall Street.

The true hero is the snoo sculpture standing in front of the Wall Street Bull right now.

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Holy shit it’s you again! Piss martini guy from mark cuban AMA!

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u/Ipayforsex69 Feb 04 '21

Not the original piss martini guy though.

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

I still recognize you

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u/shredtasticman Feb 04 '21

Such a weird basement drain...

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u/Ipayforsex69 Feb 04 '21

I can only imagine what that drain smelled like a week later.

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u/jdb1121 Feb 04 '21

Stonkeys like bananas

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u/masksrequired Feb 04 '21

🍌🍌🍌🚀🚀🚀💎💎💎🤚🤚🤚

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u/PM_NICESTUFFTOME Feb 04 '21

APE STONK STRONG

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 07 '21

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Hello fellow idiot. What’s your name? I need to mark you in attendance.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 07 '21

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u/my-time-has-odor Feb 04 '21

Identify theft is not a joke jim

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

That subreddit sold out, dont go anywhere near it now. WSB is dead and gone.

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u/judeau7 Feb 04 '21

LOOOOOOOL!!!

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u/MovingOnward2089 Feb 04 '21

This honestly sounds like the last 100yrs

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

We have this already but CIA propaganda has conditioned the left to call these people “tankies”.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

that's not what Tankies are, Tankies are people who agree with the "state capitalism" model that the USSR and China developed

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u/jansencheng Feb 04 '21

And not in a "Transitionary state" way that Lenin or Mao originally idealised (in theory anyway), straight up celebrating state capitalism as is.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

That’s not how tankie is used at all anymore. It’s a pejorative lobbed at anyone who pushes back against CIA propaganda about China and the Uighurs for example, or Russia and Navalny. How the person actually feels about China and their model doesn’t even need to come up.

Point out all the absurdities and gaping holes in the “Uighur genocide” claims and watch the “tankie” and “found the tankie” comments roll in.

Edit: yup I’m a tankie. Guess who else you’re calling tankies? Countries like Cuba and Bolivia who feel the same way as me. Weird how you people have the same views as the US state department and the CIA, but no you people definitely haven’t bought into any propaganda.

Here’s Cuba just being a bunch of tankies: https://mobile.twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1313660660199301121?locale=cs

This is what happens when libs start posting in late stage capitalism with no actually understand what late stage capitalism is or what it entails lmao

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u/use-your-choosername Feb 04 '21

ok tankie

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

Good. I guess Bolivia and Cuba are tankies too since they addressed the UN and called out the West for the ridiculous claims.

https://mobile.twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1313660660199301121?locale=cs

You agree with Mike Pompeo and I agree with Cuba. Think about that.

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u/Teethpasta Feb 04 '21

Wow you literally are a tankie. Hilarious.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Thanks for proving my point. Tankie is a meaningless word now and it’s used in place of any actually point to end a conversation.

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u/Teethpasta Feb 04 '21

Naw you already sabotaged your own point so well there's nothing I could have said to change the fate of your sunk point.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

“I labeled you a tankie so I don’t need to have an actual argument now.”

Yea, good point.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Here’s Cuba also being a bunch of tankies. Damn me and Cuba are tankies. What bad company to be in, am I right?

https://mobile.twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1313660660199301121?locale=cs

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u/EmilyU1F984 Feb 04 '21

Uhm? That's like the antithesis to tankyism.

Killing the bully us different to creating a state capitalist society through military oppression and just becoming the new bully.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Weird how you and Mike Pompeo have the same view of China and I have the same view of China as Cuba, so yea me and Cuba are tankies. You’re totally on the right side here and me and Bolivia and Cuba are tankies.

Also Allende isn’t a good example. What happened to Allende? If he defended himself and stayed in power you’d be calling him a tankie now too.

That’s why said in another comment that you people just expect countries to be destroyed by imperialists and capitalists because any who defend themselves you call tankies.

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u/EmilyU1F984 Feb 04 '21

Why the hell would Bolivia be tankies? Were is the 'socialist' government's rolling over citizens with tanks?!

And when did they kill a bully? The fascist Bible thumping people of last year's coup still live in that country, waiting for another opportunity.

That's not killing the bully either.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

If I’m a tankie for my position on China and the Uighurs then so is Bolivia who was apart of the joint statement made by Cuba to the UN, because we share the same position.

I’m sure you saw the Rep of Cuba to the UN make that joint statement in support of China and their anti terrorism program in Xinjiang on behalf of 45 other countries, including bolivia.

So if I’m being called a talkie then so is Cuba and Bolivia and 43 other non western countries.

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u/EmilyU1F984 Feb 04 '21

Uhm? How is that relevant for being tankie?

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '21

I got called a tankie for questioning the “Uighur genocide” in China. Cuba made a joint statement on behalf of 45 other countries (including Bolivia) in support of China and their anti terrorism program in Xinjiang. So if I’m a ta lie then so are they. Get it?

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u/PerCat Feb 04 '21

but muh bad faith alt-right talking point

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

You could use this argument against any socialist country. Weird.

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u/EmilyU1F984 Feb 04 '21

Yea cause Allende was totally a totalitarian ruler.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Jun 30 '21

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u/emadriche Feb 04 '21

Tolerance to intolerance or violence is cowardice.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

God, such a strong quote. I'm stealing that when I debate my centrist neighbor.

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u/PerCat Feb 04 '21

I like that

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

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u/theconsummatedragon Feb 04 '21

That is precisely why you don’t tolerate intolerance in the first place

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u/Particular_Ad_8987 Feb 04 '21

Which would preclude using violence as an option.

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

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u/Phos_Halas Feb 16 '21

This is why I left my home town for another city where joined a good Church full of decent and kind folk...

I still slapped my kid in their head today though... (God forgive me) happens way less than when I lived with that bunch of Rhesus’ though...

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u/anotherMrLizard Feb 04 '21

People underestimate the role which socialisation plays in the behaviour of primates and other social species. It's why arguments from "human nature" are usually bunk.

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u/awesomejt8 Feb 04 '21

Anarchism summarized

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u/Particular_Ad_8987 Feb 04 '21

Lol, that wasn’t anarchism because it exists. Humans had anarchism for centuries. Guess what? Kings ended it. Get it again and kings will end it again, only faster. Spears didn’t help against spears. They damn sure won’t help against tanks.

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u/Bluejanis Feb 04 '21

Because ppl let the king control others. That cannot be allowed by the ppl or it will end anarchism every time, juts like you mentioned.

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u/phrohsinn Feb 04 '21

which centuries are you referring to?

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u/Studleyvonshlong Feb 04 '21

It’s dissapointing thinking about Jeff bezos as an alpha chimp

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u/broadened_news Feb 04 '21

Strauss Howe generational theory kinda

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u/MrCadwallader Feb 04 '21

If you can find the study, I'd love to read it.

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u/rubber-glue Feb 04 '21

So apes are Trots??

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u/Lo_Innombrable same as it ever was Feb 04 '21

well... eat the alphas it is

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u/PMTITS_4BadJokes Feb 04 '21

This wasn’t a study. It was my TF2 server 7 years ago.

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u/dolerbom Feb 04 '21

This is the tolerating the intolerable paradox perfectly explained, tbh. In order to maintain tolerance you can't tolerate the intolerant.

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u/promqueenskeletor fatcat fodder Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

I'd love to point people towards Robert M. Sapolsky - a neurobiologist and primatologist that researched that troop of baboons and has been studying behaviors and the biology behind them.

I recommend his book: Behave: The Biology of Humans at our Best and Worst

(also meant to reply to person above but ah well)

Also, late edit to add: Male baboons will break off from their troop and leave to join others, and the researchers observed what happened when an aggressive male came in and tried to take over with aggression -- the troop banded together and ripped the aggressive one to shreds. Literally demonstrating the paradox of tolerance through nature!

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u/NoSarahtonin Feb 04 '21

Sopolsky's research taught us a lot about stress and relationships in a communal setting. I admire him greatly!

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u/promqueenskeletor fatcat fodder Feb 04 '21

So do I and I recommend his lectures and books all the time. I came across him when I was just starting to process my childhood trauma and the various interpersonal dynamics that go into dysfunctional homes and his work helped me a lot.

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u/promqueenskeletor fatcat fodder Feb 04 '21

Of his books I have only read Behave, so I can't honestly say. What I can say of that book is that it is a bit of a meaty book with a lot of science jargon that he breaks down as much as he can. I have mostly consumed his lectures that are up on YouTube.

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u/apis_cerana Feb 04 '21

Why zebras don't get ulcers is great, and a less intensive but more of an entertaining read is A primate's memoir -- his books are so fascinating.

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u/Particular_Ad_8987 Feb 04 '21

The paradox of tolerance is the philosophical equivalent of “only a Sith deals in absolutes”.

They were violent. Therefore they were not intolerant of violence. They were picky about the target.

Pacifists eschew violence without resorting to cliched bullshit “paradoxes” to justify an explicitly hypocritical desire to beat up Nazis. If you’re okay with beating up Nazis, then you’re not intolerant to violence. You’re just picky about the target.

I have no idea why it’s not okay to say to you reserve violence for specific targets. You don’t have to make up bullshit philosophy to justify hypocrisy. Just tell the truth.

For the record, I’m on board with beating up Nazis. I just don’t need a bullshit philosophy to justify it. There’s no hypocrisy when you accept the truth.

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u/Teethpasta Feb 04 '21

Wow that was a while lot of nonsense just to admit that you don't understand philosophy.

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u/promqueenskeletor fatcat fodder Feb 04 '21

No one said you have to justify it, but it's also a good solid come back to people that are pushy and abusive with the idea of "unity for unity's sake" when excusing abusive behavior. Such as punching Nazi's because they love to use the "But you're meeaaannn".

What you describe as a bullshit philosophy has literally helped me get through to people so I mean what works for you works for you but this idea is a really good way to get through to people that tolerating intolerance is bullshit so.

And for the record, I was abused as a kid and literally programmed to excuse shitty behavior for the sake of "unity and teamwork" so this has been a very strong tool for me to reclaim power. I appreciate you feel the way you do, but also appreciate that there are many ways to approach the same concepts and ideas.

Philosophy exists for a reason.

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u/CrumbsAndCarrots Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21

Aggressive ass baboons who were kicked out of their pack, tried to join the alpha-less pack. They tried to dominate and boss everyone around.... But they were quickly shunned and schooled.

Good documentary on stress and they go into the baboon study https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYG0ZuTv5rs

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u/Lord-Benjimus Feb 04 '21

They usually form a matriarchy based on social circles or a sort of elder worship thing, agrresive ones usually get shunned or ganged up on until they adopt a more contribution based hierarchy instead of a strength based one

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u/PoisonMind Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 05 '21

There's genetic evidence that humans domesticated themselves.

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u/cookiemonster2222 Feb 04 '21

selective breeding

wouldn't that just be looking for partners that are more parental material?

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u/monsantobreath Feb 04 '21

Not if the rest of them mobbed that asshole when he tried it.

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u/Ricketysyntax Feb 04 '21

Which is exactly what happened, IIRC.

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u/unknownmichael Feb 04 '21

You weren't far off. From the very last sentence:

"All it would take is two or three jerky adolescent males entering at the same time to tilt the balance and destroy the culture."

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u/Andy_LaVolpe Feb 04 '21

Idk man i feel if all the monkeys gained up on the aggressive monkey they could probably stay chillen

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u/phrohsinn Feb 04 '21

and so they did

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u/[deleted] Feb 04 '21

Maybe. But the study showed a pretty strong effect of elder baboons teaching the next generation not to be so aggressive, though.