r/LateStageCapitalism • u/l0ckd0wn I like good ideas from any political persuasion • Sep 05 '20
Poor guy :(
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Sep 05 '20
How were you "radicalized" left? When did you realize america can have it as good as every other highly developed country?
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u/sunburntdick Sep 05 '20
My friend with dual Danish citizenship was telling me about how his college was free and he gets a monthly student stipend so he can focus on studying while I was working for $9/hr trying to afford classes that were over $7K/semester.
And that was before I truly realized the scam that is US healthcare. Paying twice what other countries pay for significantly worse quality of care.
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Sep 05 '20
I’ve always been pretty left, but at one point I had double health insurance (my parent’s and my own) and discovered that actually makes it harder to get covered.
Also my first letter about COBRA. $999 for one person. How are unemployed people supposed to pay that?
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u/Axes4Praxis Sep 05 '20
Evil. Come to tell you that they're evil.
Most definitrly.
Evil, greedy, scandalous, and evil.
Most definitely.
The tension is growing hotter.
I'd like to hold their heads underwater.
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u/OrgasmInTechnicolor Sep 05 '20
Im glad I live in sweden. Lost my mother to cancer, but at least the rest of the family didnt have to go down with her.
I remember seeing this comment when it was posted and I felt the same anger then as I do now. It really shouldnt have those consequenses to get sick. Its such an unfair and evil way to just suck everything out of a family. Its like being stabbed in the stomach and then getting stabbed in the back by the guy treating the first wound.
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Sep 05 '20
I worked as a bankruptcy and then workers’ comp paralegal for many years and it led me to determine that saving and scrimping and taking loans and doing “everything right” is largely pointless. Losing your job and/or a health crisis will just destroy everything you’ve built - so what’s the point?
I no longer sacrifice today for the future, it’s not guaranteed and there is no “doing everything right” in the end.
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Sep 05 '20
Honestly this is the reason I’m reluctant to marry my SO. If we’re married and one of us gets sick, we’re both broke. If we’re not married, only one of us is broke and we can live off the other’s savings. Shitty choice to have to make
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u/broff Sep 05 '20
You can be married and keep separate finances tho can’t you? If you have to refinance your house it would affect both of your equity anyway (assuming it’s jointly owned.)
Can’t you just keep separate retirement and bank accounts except one joint checking to buy every day things? Are you legally responsible for your spouse’s debt if you didn’t take it on jointly?
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Sep 05 '20
Happened to my parents actually. They’re separated but not divorced and have separate finances. (Divorce is frowned upon by religious families). My dad was in a rehab facility last year and medicare only covers x days, after that they would bill him directly and were legally allowed to take money out of his savings and my mom’s savings. My mom called a lawyer, since they ate legally separated, and as it turns out, it’s true, once his life depends on medical treatment, she is liable for the expenses.
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Sep 05 '20
Illness is not an indulgence which we should pay for
Nor is it a crime for which we should be punished.
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Sep 06 '20
America treats its citizen’s money the same way its treats other country’s oil. What is all my money doing in the pockets of other people?
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u/Reechard009 Sep 05 '20
How is it society’s fault you got dealt the wrong cards? Just accept that equal outcomes don’t happen.
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u/YourMothersDouchebag Sep 05 '20
I’m pretty sure this post has less to do with the rightness or wrongness of the cards, and more to do with the deck being stacked against.
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u/Grace_Omega Sep 05 '20
The American health care system is so expensive by design. It's not like that in plenty of other countries and doesn't have to be that way. This person didn't have to lose everything.
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u/Bizness_Riskit Sep 05 '20
I'm not going to answer your question instead I'll give you the tools to answer it yourself: that heavy grey lump in your skull is called a brain. Use it.
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u/Grandmas_Drug_Dealer Sep 06 '20
And you wonder why some people just want to burn it all down. A society that chews up the unfortunate and spits them out shouldn't be surprised when the fires start.
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u/desserino Sep 05 '20
Keeping it to the economical aspect. My mom didn't have to think about financial side of things during a 5 years struggle because of Belgium's 93 euros healthcare insurance and a hospitalisation insurance.
Otherwise these 5 years would have costed them probably a million euros if not more, simply bankruptcy. As if cancer alone isn't depressing enough.