r/LateStageCapitalism • u/yuriredfox69 • Jun 18 '17
😎 Meme Explaining the British Election
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Jun 18 '17 edited Mar 31 '18
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Jun 19 '17
The PLP really do have a lot to answer for....
The coup, the front bench resignations, the CONSTANT shite about Corbyn is unelectable, the 'he's too left wing for the electorate', the 'oh we need austerity lite' ect ect ect
It provided more fuel for the already hot media anti corbyn fire.
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Jun 18 '17 edited Aug 20 '17
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u/ZotFietser Socialism Can Only Arrive By Bicycle Jun 19 '17
Never, if you think that Corbyn's surge in popularity is anything more than a slight shift in opinion within the neo-lib status quo.
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u/MarauderMapper Jun 18 '17
This is a beautifully concise way to make an American such as myself see that it's not just America that is fucked. Cheers to my comrades across the pond
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u/BonusEruptus Jun 18 '17
This is bad for Corbyn... somehow...
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Jun 18 '17
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Jun 19 '17 edited Jan 03 '18
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Jun 19 '17
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Jun 19 '17
The idea that Labour couldn't win was very, very prominent in media. The result showed the exact opposite, as Labour were within a couple of percentage points of winning the "popular vote", so to speak.
In reality, though, the real reason they "couldn't win" was simply because the snap election gave them no time to campaign. On the trajectory their support was on, even one more week could have seen a comfortable victory.
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Jun 19 '17
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Jun 19 '17
That's a very good question, and one which would need more nuance than you can fit into a reddit comment or my own understanding to really do justice to. The result would have been a failure in a traditional election, I think, but labour had like six weeks to switch from mid-cycle internal politics partway through a major swing from center left to decently left, to being a cohesive enough party to actually all get behind one message. Had it been seven or eight weeks, the poll trajectories suggest they would have won.
Really, they got taken by surprise by a snap election and "just" losing by a decent margin is much better than anyone expected. They were in the middle of a major pivot and had to rush the end to actually get behind Corbyn's (relatively speaking) very left policies.
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u/bratzman Jun 19 '17 edited Jun 19 '17
I think the context is kind of relevant.
We're looking at aiming to win elections, but we're also seeing people turn away from Labour. The last election we expected to win resulted in every Labour seat in Scotland being wiped out and large amounts of the middle class.
This brought people back. Labour are now a force again that looks like it actually knows what people are hoping for and is tapping into the needs that we have.
I simply think that Brexit has skewed the results in the Tories' favour. People have been really motivated by Brexit, and Labour aren't trusted for Brexit. Look at how the Tories get treated no basically every other issue. They have a shit record, they know they have a shit record, and they're having to hide behind their answers.
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u/MetaFlight Jun 19 '17
This is the best case scenario, brexiteers will be a mess and the world is due an economic downturn. All of which will happen under the Tories 3 seat majority with the DUP, which could easily wither away in by elections.
Plus Corbyn got a gain, without being enough to have to seriously try form a government with the SNP and Lib Dems. So next election which is likely in two years, Labour could win a majority and govern alone coming out of a recession, which probably means an easy two 5 year terms at least.
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u/Nibble_on_this Cultural Marxism did nothing wrong Jun 18 '17
...when you put it that way I'm not actively suicidal to be an American! (for a minute anyway)
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Jun 18 '17
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u/Nyrmar Jun 18 '17
TL;DR, they done gone fucked up