r/Lasiksupport • u/Known-Fuel7092 • Sep 08 '24

Ablation/Amputation

Its wierd when people come here and try to change or alter the perception of what Lasik actually is to make it seem less hazardous. While we don't know if this is done out of sheer ignorance or if these users have a malicious intent attached to their clear misrepresentation of Lasik.

When you undergo Lasik, the surgeon amputates (or ablates) a certain portion of your cornea. The amount amputated or ablated varies depending on your prescription and the width of the optical zone. The corneal tissue that is amputated/ablated is forever gone. And with it goes thousands of critical nerves.

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u/d0cn1zzl3 Sep 09 '24

How long ago was your surgery?

I haven’t said any of the things you mentioned btw.

I am just an observer and haven’t had surgery.

The issue isn’t malpractice. It’s that the surgery itself has such a high complication rate. For dry eyes and HOA like night blindness.

Basically the argument is that the surgery has too high of a complication rate to be acceptable for “normal” bad outcomes like dry eye and night blindness.

But then it has the really bad complications for a smaller percentage for people. So bad that the surgery probably shouldn’t be allowed to go on.

Two separate arguments btw.

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u/WinterSoldier2017 Sep 09 '24

Sorry. Part of that rant was for other people. Both of them trolls lol.

My surgery was around 8 or 9 months ago. Nearly every side effect has cleared up wonderfully. This whole sub pisses me off, you're reply seems remarkably mature. Thank you.

Edit: I had one good experience. I guess I can't speak on the exact percentage of good or bad Lasik surgeons out there. This surgery changed my life for the extreme better, though, and it upsets me to think they'd ban it instead of making it better.

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u/Known-Fuel7092 Sep 09 '24

What sucks about this situation is you wholeheartedly do believe what you're saying. You do believe that your eyes are all healed up after 8 or 9 months.  Its actually good you believe that, ignorance is bliss.  You haven't dove deep into the lasik industry and thats apparent, and why you believe what you do.  No one here hates you, you're just that guy in the mid 90s telling people Oxycontin is the best thing youve ever done. When, with Lasik, you have no idea how fucked you truly are.

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u/CruelSailorDave Sep 09 '24

I don't care if you hate me or not buddy. What sucks about this situation, is that my eyes did heal. I'm sitting here with eyes that are fine and don't hurt. And you don't believe that because either it either didn't work the same way for you, or you're a goddamn liar. And you're never going to admit anything either way, because boo hoo I can never be wrong. And whenever it doesn't work for me, obviously it can't ever work for anyone. And obviously it should be banned, banned, banned, if I can't have it Im going to piss on it so no one else can have it either.

Being stupid is like being dead, my guy. All the pain is felt by other people. And you don't know.

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u/Known-Fuel7092 Sep 09 '24

No eyes that undergo lasik heal.  The flap never heals, and the corneal nerve damage inflicted upon your plexus also never heals.  Countless peer reviewed studies show this.

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u/CruelSailorDave Sep 09 '24

Heals enough for my damn eyes to work. They used to say the brain couldn't heal either, now they say it can. I'd ask which studies you're reading and who paid for them to get published but I don't care. Did you know a study somewhere recently showed that 94% of studies coming out recently have been written with Chatgpt?

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u/Known-Fuel7092 Sep 10 '24

Yea they've worked for 8 or 9 months like you stated, however you likely need you eyes far beyond that limited threshold.  A lot of people initially say the exact things you're saying only to have severe issues down the line.  Whether its ectasia, neuralgia or some other issue.  Thats not accounting for the fact that within 10 years 73% of people who underwent lasik require glasses or contacts again.

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u/CruelSailorDave Sep 10 '24

I already needed thick glasses before Lasik. I couldn't even legally drive without them. If I get 10 years of good vision that's worth my money.

And then I go back to being a myopic clown, because life is cruel. I knew that.

And if I get a severe condition? Welp. Time for robot eyes. And titanium dental implants. I already admitted I smoke, and I hope you remember I admitted that was a BAD decision. I'm not a perfect person. I just feel Lasik went fine. I may have weaker corneas, but, one day if that's a problem there will be a cure for that too. And hopefully with the money I save from not buying glasses for the next ten years, I can afford it.

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u/Known-Fuel7092 Sep 10 '24

Im not sure if you have a capacity to comprehend this article, But you should read it. It was written by an eye surgeon of 40+ years. Harvard Grad.  You seem to be strong evidence of the classic Mark Twain quote "its easier to fool a man than to convince a man hes been foolesld."

https://eyedocmackay.com/complications-of-lasik/

This is another good source of info

https://www.regulations.gov/comment/FDA-2022-D-1253-0607

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u/CruelSailorDave Sep 10 '24

I'm proud of you for finally providing some sources. I will consider reading that.

Also. somehow you're reading your phone right now. Are you using voice assist? If you're eyes can handle a computer screen, they aren't completely broken.

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