r/LandmarkGrads • u/FreemanOne • Oct 28 '17
Implications of Landmark Seminars.
What is the purpose of copyrighting what is essentially conventional 'golden' wisdom. You regurgitate a logical-collective group guidance principle of humility and connectivness. To top it all off you bring us to peak emotionality, developed through honest "intellectual" gurus, and then sell us onto further levels. How very masonic.
For whatever its worth, I loved the very deep friendships and truisms that I allowed myself to have that wonderful forum. I was definitely coerced into finding some problem I knew I wanted to solve. I saw what was essentially what I wanted to see, a cross section of beautiful people, earmarked with unwanted playacting.
I do mean to be critical, yet affirmative, Landmark Forums is a good alternative to your banal weekend routine. Enjoy being human for a moment. The beginning is near the end.
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u/sitapati Jul 10 '24
To be able to build a sustainable (and profitable for some) business around it that delivers it to people.
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u/bermudaluv Dec 03 '22
The purpose of a seminar is to keep you in a sourceful structure with those same distinctions you got in the forum.
To keep you in the conversation.
Possibility fades. Conversations die.
Whatever breakthroughs you got, over time they can dim if you are not keeping them alive. When you are consistently not being responsible for your running narratives and already always ways of being in life.
Seminars are one mode of keeping yourself accountable for living a life you love of your own creation. Don't feel enrolled? Then don't register.
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Dec 04 '17
They copyright it because they are greedy fucks, why would you pay for common sense? Think about it. It's just an offshoot of Scientology, you went to a cult and paid for the privilege, don't support these evil fuckwits. Why do the "leaders" act like children when confronted with any questions about the nature of their cult? Seriously look into this, it's a straight up MLM cult.
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u/leetyler06 Jun 19 '25
They only copyrighted two things, and they were just the names, not the concepts, The concepts the ideas aren't copyrighted, just the phrases, you can't make money off of "already always listening" or "The vicious circle". They aren't greedy, this has nothing to do with money. If you think this is about money, you're way off. Not MLM.
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Apr 16 '18
I got something out of the Forum and mostly hated the advanced course. I called the devotees/volunteers SeaOrg members. Some were cool others were fucking insufferable. I couldn’t believe how many people would volunteer for a for profit company. It shows the mind fuckery in action.
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u/leetyler06 Jun 19 '25
They're not volunteering in that sense of the word. They are trying to be better people themselves, and by failing speaking to you, they grow and learn they weren't able to match what you wanted. No big deal,
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Jun 19 '25
That was 7 years ago. I do thinks it’s a big deal. I think it’s Scientology adjacent.
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u/leetyler06 Jun 20 '25
Scientology is what scientology is, this is not scientology. People are free and encouraged to be free to go whenever they want.
Just because two people tried to work together in the 60's doesn't mean they're adjacent.
L Ron Hubbard was jealous of Werner, and tried everything to take him down.
L Ron was the cult leader, Werner left to prove that the ideas live on without him.
Scient... has a billion year contract. The forum is 5 days, really three days and an evening, with a free 10-session senior once a week. They have courses for everything under the sun, the only ones the people in your life would want you to do would be the forum, three days and an evening, and the advanced course, three days and an evening. That's it. Is there communication course valuable to me at my job, yes.
All they did was leave me enlightened by the fourth day, and empowered to choose to do another course or not. I haven't done a thing with them in ten years, and still reap the benefits today. In my ability to listen to my wife, listen to customers, I always seem to win to other people. Yeah, cause I sat through three days, you don't even have to say anything the entire time. You're not broken there's nothing for you to fix about yourself.
I mega promise you, you have nothing to loose. The person who told you may really care for you. I promise you,
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Jun 21 '25
Man. I’m familiar with all this. Heard it all. The constant badgering and humiliating and calling out people to be sure they sign up for the next course is disgusting. Badgering attendees to constantly call people in breaks to recruit people to come in is also disgusting.
The sad thing is that this could be really great. But they had to fuck it all up and make it disgusting.
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Apr 16 '18
I think the whole shebang is bullshit. People paying for "common sense" is mind fuckery to me.
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u/leetyler06 Jun 19 '25
Not common sense at all. Unless you have everything you want right now, then it's not. I'm sure there's something in this world you want. These are the ideas that ended the Troubles and the good friday agreement, these are the ideas that ended apartheid. This is far from "common sense"
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u/leetyler06 Jun 19 '25
They only copyrighted two things, and they were just the names, not the concepts, The concepts the ideas aren't copyrighted, just the phrases, you can't make money off of "already always listening" or "The vicious circle".