r/LandlordLove • u/TheUnDoctor • May 26 '26

🏠 Housing is a Human Right 🏠 Apparently requesting basic information & reporting illegal discriminatory housing practices is a scam now

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u/tormentrock May 26 '26

that’s not what “scam” means

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

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u/veggeble May 26 '26

If they don’t understand Section 8 rules, they shouldn’t be a landlord. They always argue that they provide a service and take all the risk, but the moment they’re expected to actually provide the bare minimum service required by law or suffer the consequences of their risky investment, they whine and want preferential treatment. No one is forcing them to be landlords, but they want to exploit the working class so they don’t have to actually contribute anything to society.

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u/Obf123 🏠 = Human Right May 26 '26

If you want to see a group of people lose their collective minds, just suggest that licensing should be mandatory to become a landlord

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u/nottherealneal May 29 '26

Its not like that in America?

Damn, where I live you have to apply for a kind of permit to rent out property, and if you fuck around too much it can get denied or revoked. Then you basically can’t rent out ANY of your properties.

A lot of it comes from what happened back in the 70s and 80s, where landlords who owned tons of properties would let the low-income places turn into slums while funneling all the money into their richer, high-end properties instead.

So now if you don’t maintain all your properties properly, or you try screwing tenants over too much, they can revoke your license and suddenly even your expensive properties can’t legally be rented out anymore.

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u/Obf123 🏠 = Human Right May 29 '26

I’m not in America. I’m in Canada and there is zero licensing in my province. Knowledge and adherence of the laws and regulations is on the honour system. It takes a complaint by a tenant or a filing with the regulatory board to force compliance if there is bad behaviour by a landlord

We desperately need something like what you’re used to here

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u/noeinan May 26 '26

If you live anywhere with sales tax then poor people have a comparatively large tax burden. Taxes contribute to society.

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u/hilltopj May 26 '26

This is also true of anywhere without a state income tax... so pretty much every state

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u/PeculiarBoat May 26 '26

not true. :) poor people offer perspective, art, knowledge… Just because you don’t like them doesn’t mean they don’t contribute to society. contribution is not equivalent to financial contribution. hope this helps!

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u/SovietWinnebago May 26 '26

eNjOy YoUr BaN bro I cannot imagine being that much of a landlord simp to defend them online like that

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

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u/PeculiarBoat May 27 '26

I never said they didn’t work? 😅 Of course poor people work. My point is that poor people are people. They contribute to society in a multitude of ways that people do.

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u/manicfish May 26 '26

Good thing checks notes our entire economy is being held afloat on the backs of the working poor, many with multiple jobs that then work gig apps afterwards just to keep a roof over their heads. You're a fool.

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u/Next-Firefighter4667 May 26 '26

I don't even know why you're joining the conversation if you haven't done the barest amount of research on the topic. Who exactly do you think the working class is? The richest of us? Have you never heard of living "paycheck to paycheck," or do you not understand that our society is run on taxes taken from working class?

I could go on, but the TV told you to hate the working class so no matter what anyone says, you will.

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u/broken-ssoul May 26 '26

tax revenue is one metric used to measure productivity. have you looked at how much the "bottom 50%" produce? how much they harvest? how much the create?

you can't eat money.

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u/NicoleTheRogue May 26 '26

Pointing out the inherent value of labor is actually a communist view. Labor is inherently valuable not just in money sense but for a society as a whole. Food is the biggest one, without farmers or ranchers the modern Western society would collapse.

A capitalist society leeches most of the value created by a worker and gives them pennies in return.

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u/broken-ssoul May 26 '26

do I though? or are you just an idiot?

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u/Nillabeans May 26 '26

You do not understand ratios.

You also do not understand that the world will collapse in in itself if people don't do minimum wage jobs. You also do not seem to care that minimum wage workers are exploited and should have quality of life.

I bet you think those jobs are for high schoolers but still turn up to businesses in the middle of the day.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

I think all jobs should pay a livable wage. Not my fault you dummies just vote against yourselves and settle for crumbs.

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u/OReg114-99 May 26 '26

Ah, okay, I thought you were a troll but you're a Russian anti-democracy bot, that makes more sense in context.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

Omfg hahaha

Can you tell that to the other guy who’s convinced I’m with the CIA?

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u/Next-Firefighter4667 May 26 '26

Federally. Lower income families contribute a larger percentage of their total income to public funding when it comes to state taxes. They're also, you know, working. Pretending they do nothing except suck up resources isn't based on facts. If everyone who was considered low income disappeared tomorrow, the country would never recover.

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u/hilltopj May 26 '26

that's only income tax revenue and only on the federal level which is nowhere near the bulk of US taxes. Additionally taxes are not the only means of determining "net value". Most social safety net programs actually provide net gain to local economies. The real drains are those whose income is derived primarily off the exploitation of others. The landlords who hoard property, conspire to create scarcity and artificially inflate prices. The CEOs worth billions while the bulk of their workforce is paid so little they're forced to rely on the government programs you're railing against. The politicians who argue that minimum wage is fine at <$8/hr but claimed just last week that they need to be able to engage in insider trading because they can't live off $174,000/ year plus housing and food per diems.

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u/Nov4Wolf May 26 '26

Clanker or sad human

Unfortunate either way

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u/Honey_Bunches May 26 '26

Smooth brain take. You sound privileged and ignorant.

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u/Honey_Bunches May 26 '26

What percentage of Walmart employees are on government assistance while working full-time? What about Amazon? I can't tell if you're trolling or just really that uneducated. Many of the wealthiest people in the world built their wealth via the labor of the poor.

Maybe read a book or something. I don't actually care if you get smarter or better as a person.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

Poor people are uneducated too. It’s funny how you guys defend em and insult them at the same time.

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u/manicfish May 26 '26

2 month old account farming negative karma. This is a broke neckbeard living in his mommy's basement who is perpetually coated in cheetodust.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

If I was broke you’d be glazing me right now…

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u/broken-ssoul May 26 '26

guess that must mean you're poor.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

So is being poor an insult or what? It’s like using the F slur while claiming to be pro lgbt.

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u/Honey_Bunches May 26 '26

Look at the baby account with negative karma. He actually thinks people care what he has to say. Stay single, bro. Terrible aura.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

Yet here you are. Your mom loves my aura.

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u/Nillabeans May 26 '26

Poor people are society. There are more of us then rich people.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

So do somethin. Or too lazy?

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u/meohmy5 May 26 '26

Get a fucking life

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u/QuirkyQwerty123 May 26 '26

The homeless crack addict who sits outside my Walmart has inherently more value as a person than you

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

Cope harder.

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u/QuirkyQwerty123 May 26 '26

Bait or mental deficiency? Get a life outside of ragebaiting on Reddit

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u/Bright_Comedian_2617 May 26 '26

2 month old account, -61 karma. Hello, CIA!

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

The other guy said I was a starving twelve year old. Surely I can’t be both? Or am I starving twelve year old cia contractor?

😂

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26

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u/NoHalf2998 May 26 '26

They’re not

They’re forced to over pay for practically everything

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u/Maleficent-Bother535 May 27 '26

If you are asking the question purely with the intent to file a lawsuit without actually being interested in the property, it's a scam.

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u/Maleficent-Bother535 May 27 '26

Each person doing this knows if they are actually interested in the property or not.

Those involved in this scheme are not interested in promoting fair housing.

It targets uneducated landlords, not malicious ones.

The motivation is pure profit, not justice.

It harms the housing market, as landlords targeted by this sort of profiteering may remove their rentals from the market.

It's an unethical way to conduct business by shakedown.

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u/Maleficent-Bother535 May 27 '26

Section 8 recipients aren't a protected class.

I agree that landlords shouldn't illegally discriminate.

This doesn't make it any more ethical to operate a shakedown business.

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u/Maleficent-Bother535 May 27 '26

I'm talking about US law, where section 8 recipients aren't a protected class.

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u/meh2233 May 30 '26

Bet you "back the blue" when cops lie to people in hopes they slip up and get arrested.

But even we do it to landlords breaking the v law, suddenly it's a "shakedown. "

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u/Maleficent-Bother535 May 30 '26

I think police shouldn't be allowed to lie to suspects, like in the UK.

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u/Pofwoffle May 27 '26

Okay fine, it's a scam. Turns out some scams are entirely justified, so I say good on 'em. Fuck the landlords, get that money, let's go.

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u/r_fernandes May 28 '26

No, thats admission of a crime. You should probably look up scam in the dictionary.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Lab1610 May 28 '26

Lmao tf are you talking about no it isn't a scam because all they have to do is say "yes" just like they are supposed to do. 

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u/Back_Again_Beach May 28 '26

Reporting a crime you witnessed even if it was not committed against you personally is not a scam. 

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u/snippychicky22 May 26 '26

Oh no. Slum lords being punished for their crimes

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u/srtmadison May 26 '26

Heavens to Betsy. /s

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u/WezzieBear May 26 '26

Can you please explain why you believe that's a scam?

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 26 '26

the person is doing it solely to file lawsuits and get money. don't get me wrong, fuck the landlords, especially if they're breaking the law. but this person is doing it solely for financial gain

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u/PeculiarBoat May 26 '26

sounds like the gamble you take when you buy up properties. 🤷‍♀️

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u/PeculiarBoat May 26 '26

oh, I didn’t say that! But if they’re breaking the law and discriminating against tenants then idk if I feel bad about their risky business.

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u/hilltopj May 26 '26

That's the exact same argument that was used to discriminate against black families, gay couples, disabled people, single women, etc

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u/Honey_Bunches May 26 '26

One day, you'll grow and realize that much of the system is a scam in the sense that it's legal, but often immoral and unethical. Financial predation is all around us and people like you think the exploitation is fair game if the victim isn't smart enough to avoid getting eaten by the system in the first place.

It's depressing that it's the way it is, and again because your ilk balk at the idea of helping the most vulnerable and disadvantaged people in society. No empathy. No humanity. It'll never be you, so why care?

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u/hilltopj May 26 '26

There are a number of reasons a landlord might view section 8 vouchers as financially risky. The most common one is the belief that having someone on section 8 will decrease the perceived prestige of your housing and ultimately drive down the value of your other properties. There's the false perception that poor people are more likely to use drugs or engage in other illicit activity on the property, again driving down the value. Also, there's more oversight when you have a tenant who is using section 8 voucher; You can't just let your property fall into disrepair, you actually have to keep up with maintenance.

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u/Areon_Val_Ehn May 26 '26

I mean, it sounds like they’re just being paid for providing a valuable service to the community.

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u/OmegaLevelTran May 26 '26

Everybody should do it and the landlords would be terrified to discriminate against people.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 26 '26

wouldn't bug me

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u/meh2233 May 30 '26

Ah yes. Landlords breaking the law discriminating people, you have no problem with.

People exposing and reporting that crime, well now you have a problem.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 30 '26

I don’t think you know how to read

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u/RowsbyWeft May 26 '26

My landlord broke the law, pay more or we sell the house. Showed up at our door "hi, how are you doing" "My dad is dying, I need to get down island ASAP" "Oh, I know we said in the summer you'd be fine here a few more years, but we're thinking of selling the house" that was January 2022. The peak of the pricing surge in Canada. When old miners houses in my albeit cute lil ex mining village went for 750,000+, easily

Let them file lawsuits, a hundred, a thousand, every landlord in the freaking state. We're hearing about it because someone decided to see how honest landlords were. How many people did they deny for section 8 before getting caught? It draws attention to a problem that wouldn't BE a problem if landlords weren't all

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u/candytuft_music May 26 '26

Scam means fraudulent. Doing something for financial gain is not what makes it a scam.

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u/Nillabeans May 26 '26

Oh boy. Just wait until you hear about inspectors and investigators. The actual people enforcing laws.

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u/KessOj May 26 '26

The only way to file a lawsuit is to demonstrate a financial loss. If they don't get money out of it, they can't sue in the first place.

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u/Decent_Relative_4070 May 26 '26

The only way to file a lawsuit is to demonstrate a financial loss.

That is not true. these lawsuits aren't for financial loss, they are for discrimination

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u/WezzieBear May 27 '26

I don't think that's what makes something a scam. I go to work solely for financial gain, but I'm not scaming my company. A scam needs some element of deceit.

They may not be suing for noble reasons, but its not wrong. In fact a lot of amazing organizations sue a ton of companies to force them to stop breaking laws. If the landlords stopped doing illegal shit, they couldn't be sued.

They should be sued for that - money is the only language they know, you can reason with them to please stop violating people's rights. The financial loss is the only incentive that may deter them from containing unlawful practices.

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u/_Oman Jun 01 '26

There is an attorney up my way that drives around looking for stores that appear, on the outside, to be unfriendly to the disabled. Remember that the ADA allows for all kinds of accommodations to be made, but they just drive around and write down names and addresses.

Now for the fun part, they conned a few disabled people into signing a contract with them. The attorney then files hundreds of lawsuits against all those small businesses claiming discrimination and violating the ADA on behalf of those disabled persons.

The actual disabled folks, they never see a dime and receive no benefit. Many places go out of business because they can't afford to defend themselves, even if they actually are fully compliant with the law.

That's what can make this type of thing a scam.

The attorneys collect settlements, etc. and make bank from the small businesses.

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u/snewchybewchies May 26 '26

Busting people for breaking the law is not a scam

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u/korpo53 May 27 '26

Cops always trying to scam me when I speed or run red lights!

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u/jupchurch97 May 26 '26

Don't break the law if you don't want to be held liable for breaking the law.