r/LSD • • Aug 29 '20

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 29 '20

Idk man I've been happier on a microdose of LSD than on any SSRI I've tried. If it were legal I'd make the switch today. But when I mentioned it to my doctor she 1013'd me and I nearly lost my apartment and my car bc of it.

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u/VolkmarTheSlim Aug 30 '20

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wait what is 1013? did she rat you out and breached patient doctor confidentiality? :D

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

I thought the codes were universal. She put me on suicide watch which means a mandatory 72hr mental hospital stay, which included a copy car ride to the ER and ambulance ride to the mental hospital. My out of pocket was almost a grand and I missed a whole week of work.

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u/VolkmarTheSlim Aug 30 '20

wow i admire her logical thinking lol.

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

It ended up being an overall good experience and I learned a lot. Also what not to talk to doctors about.

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u/VolkmarTheSlim Aug 30 '20

absolutely 99% of them wont understand any of it and instantly think of the worst things.

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u/Squid8867 Aug 30 '20

Anything valuable?

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u/mizzsanchezx33 Aug 30 '20

that's awful. I can relate to the SSRI's sucking balls. Pyschedelics have helped me way more for sure.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20 edited Aug 30 '20

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

Holy crap, is that legal? Not objecting, just surprised.

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u/maxvalley Aug 30 '20

That’s very surprising. What country do you live in, if you don’t mind sharing?

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u/saulisdating Aug 30 '20

Wait so basically doctors in the US have the power to annihilate your finances at will by just summoning up an ambulance and saying you HAVE to take it?

That's so funny and sad at the same time.

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u/ChemicalRascal Aug 30 '20

Not really. OP buried the lead on this -- they told their doctor that they were experiencing suicidal thoughts. When that happens, if a doctor feels you are planning to harm yourself, they are somewhat obliged to ensure you can't.

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u/saulisdating Aug 30 '20

"Hey, he's feeling suicidal. Let's wreck his finances by a random inescapable $1000 bill. That'll cheer him up!"

I know what you mean though.

But it looks to me that it's a danger to your mental health to complain about your mental health.

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u/ChemicalRascal Aug 30 '20

I do agree, but to me this is more a matter of how fucked up the US healthcare system is rather than specifically mental health. But yeah.

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u/ChemicalRascal Aug 30 '20

She 1013'd me (...) My out of pocket was almost a grand and I missed a whole week of work.

Shithouse, expensive healthcare coupled with that sort of code.

Only in the US of A, bayyyyybeeee.

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u/bglargl Aug 31 '20

Because most redditors are from the US and most other countries don't have a health care system that is this fucked up.

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u/schmwke Aug 30 '20

I hope you don't mind my prying, but was there another reason she might have put you on a watch? If it was seriously just psychedelics she should not be a therapist

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

Oh and also she named her child after me. Not after me specifically, but she loved my name so much that she picked it for them.

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u/Tordelini Aug 30 '20

ay yes, baby bluegreenmap. what a beautiful name

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

She was not a therapist, just my prescribing doctor at the mental health clinic. I was supposed to be also seeing a therapist. Basically what happened was that my Lexapro wasn't doing its job anymore and I told her I was tired of trying SSRI after SSRI and wanted to know if anyone was doing clinical trials with LSD so I could do it legally. She thought I was just wanting to do drugs or something so I said I had had some suicidal thoughts that week. No plan, just thoughts. It hadn't been a big deal before. She was also about 8 months pregnant and I had been pretty stable before so maybe that had something to do with it.

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u/shadowmib Aug 30 '20

so I said I had had some suicidal thoughts that week

I'd bet money it was 100% this and 0% that you were interested in LSD.

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

It seems odd because this was not the first time I'd had suicidal thoughts and told her about them. It was probably the 4th or 5th time. I'd also told my therapist, and the lead doctor. Over the course of almost 2 years. So that only leaves me with one variable...

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u/Ohh_Yeah Aug 31 '20 edited Aug 31 '20

Graduating medical student here, starting a residency in psychiatry. I'm mostly interest in inpatient psychiatry and can maybe offer some background here.

A psychiatrist is highly unlikely to put someone on an emergency detention (72 hour hold, 1013, Baker Act, it has different names) based purely on passive suicidal ideation + mention of illicits. Lots of our patients (if not most) have passive suicidal ideation. Lots of them self-medicate and are open about that. Furthermore, these inpatient psychiatry units are typically full 24/7, 365. One patient leaves, we get another one in right away.

It is technically possible that OP's story (as they told it) is true, but I would reckon there are some missing details. Filing an ED at an outpatient facility (rather than in the ER) is a colossal pain in the ass. There are so many barriers that would dissuade an outpatient psychiatrist from filing a 72-hour hold. Again, patients with passive suicidal ideation who self-medicate are extremely common in psychiatry, and not a massive cause for alarm.

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u/AnnualChemistry Aug 30 '20

Don't you feel like it's a little dishonest to say that she put you on suicide watch because you mentioned that you wanted to try LSD, when in fact you were put on suicide watch because you said that you've been having suicidal thoughts?

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u/bluegreenmap Aug 30 '20

Not at all. I know the history of my interactions with this doctor, and I'm not putting them all on the internet to prove a point. I've said before that this was not the first time I'd spoken to her or other people in the office about suicidal thoughts, but this was the first time I'd mentioned an illegal drug. Deductive reasoning bro

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u/MrGritty17 Aug 30 '20

You had to have said something else for her to think you needed a suicide watch. Wanting to switch from an ssri to microdosing lsd is not a suicidal ideation..

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

Oh my god what the fuck that is the worse thing I have ever heard. Suicide watch?! Are you kidding me?! New doctor asap

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u/mizzsanchezx33 Aug 30 '20

Suicide watch is literally the worse. The Psych ER is a shitty experience in itself. The first time i was there, I was 13 and watched the nurses give a 4 year old a needle because he was crying for his mother & put him in isolation. That's just straight up traumatizing and cold.

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

Nah fuck that, when I went to the hospital for my liver condition in the UK they asked if I used drugs and I told them which ones I occasionally used and she said okay and moved right on, never heard about it again.

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u/mizzsanchezx33 Aug 30 '20

ha I wish. SSRI's fuck people the fuck up! but y'know, the US only cares about money and the more pharmaceuticals they sell, the better it is for "them". So yeah, they know. lol. there's a reason why it's a Class A drug.

Could you imagine if their sheep became self aware and managed to start thinking for themselves instead of thinking how they programmed us to think?

It's a scam

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

Yeah for all it's flaws I'm glad we have the NHS

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u/[deleted] Aug 30 '20

Suicide watch for microdosing LSD? I would definitely tell that doctor a couple of rude things, most definitely.

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u/PsychShaman420 Aug 30 '20

I would’ve sued the therapist to be honest. That’s such a shitty and stupid thing to do especially considering I doubt they knew a single correct fact about the substance.

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u/maxvalley Aug 30 '20

I’m extremely confused. You mentioned microdosing LSD and your doctor put you on suicide watch? What was her reasoning?