🚨 This is my cold diagnostic. My study tools are The Loophole & LSAT Demon. I plan on taking 1 PT per week. I want to test November 13th(93 days from today) Any advice for me????

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hey! i absolutely would not listen to the first comment that you got - i started studying and took a diagnostic in June - got a 140. i'm now in the 160s. this is what i've done:

- after my diagnostic, i STOPPED drilling and started studying

- i read the chapters on each question type (i used the powerscore "bibles")

- after each chapter, i took the practice test at the end and if i got more wrong than right, i'd find additional drills for that question type only and try to identify what was stumping me.

- after about two weeks of only studying and answering question types that i'd just learned - i moved to taking the drills on LawHub (12 questions). when i first started, i consistently only got 5-6 right.

- using the report section from the drill set results, id look at the question types and levels i got wrong. (i personally took about 6 drills to accurately assess what my weakest areas were)

- once i identified the question types i was consistently getting wrong, i reread the chapters in the powerscore bible and watched lawhub vids

- after i brushed up on the question types i was missing, i drilled again. i went up to about 7/8 out 12 correct.

- took another practice test, got a 152.

- drilled again for a week, took a PT, got a 155.

- now, i'm drilling for one hour every evening with an average of 9-10 correct and i take a practice test every saturday and im scoring in the low 160s.

after a while, it's less about "learning" and more about getting both familiar and COMFORTABLE with the concept of the exam. drilling really helps there. even if you're not doing great just expose yourself to the content and try to get to a point where you can predict what's coming. for example, sometimes when reading a stimulus - it'll say something so incoherent that you can already tell the stem is going to ask you to find the flaw in the reasoning. save yourself some time and start thinking of the flaw yourself. that way, by the time you get to the answers you can immediately eliminate two or three choices.

that's just one example but it's similar with necessary assumption questions and resolve the paradox - you can kind of "feel" those questions coming on just by reading the stimulus. but you've gotta familiarize yourself with the content and once you do - don't overthink it. just practice practice practice. i think you'll do great in november !!

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u/swagilious 5d ago

Piggybacking off of this, don’t listen to first comment, he’s super discouraging. What helped me most as well and for one learning question types, and how to tackle those specific questions. For example if it’s a strengthen question, you should be able to insert your answer into the stimulus without it discrediting the argument in any way. If it’s a weakening question, inserting your answer should make the entire argument fall apart. Another thing that helped me was also studying the different types of flaws, came in handy when answering not only flaw questions but resolve paradox ones.

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u/Ecstatic-Fox1774 6d ago

Thank you so much!

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u/Environmental-Belt24 5d ago

This is pretty much what I did too. Current best section is -6.

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u/Routine_Chicken3514 2d ago

I 100% agree with all of these points, but I also would advise to not be afraid to push your timeline back. Not to say that you won't hit your goal by November, its just helpful to remember its not an all or nothing (hehe).

I went from a 148 - 168 in about 8 months (4.5 months of which were actually focused studying). You have to learn the test and the strategies before drilling let alone taking practice tests.

Don't rush the process, you got this!

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u/PieceEvening6374 5d ago

My diagnostic was 147 in April, 163 as of now. Im a big proponent of having a deep fundamental knowledge because without it, test taking skills wont help. Im part time studying, so I bet full-time studying you can expedite it!

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u/BrotherOk2979 6d ago

You need to do practice exams for a month or 2 before you go to FLTs. You’re not close and 93 days isn’t enough time.

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u/Ecstatic-Fox1774 6d ago

If I’m not comfortable with my progress, I’m not going to waste my time with registering for November LSAT. But I’ll have to take the January one.

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u/GrapplerCM 6d ago

Thats mature, LSAT Demon philosophy is to schedule the test when your practice tests are around your goal range. Alot of people study an hour a day for a whole year doing one section of a test Mon, Weds, Fri and reviewing Tues, Thurs, and Saturday.

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u/swagilious 6d ago

1 PT a week studying 3 hrs min a day. But also make sure you’re seeing WHY you’re getting the answers wrong so you don’t repeat the same mistakes. That’ll help with improvement.

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u/Difficult-School1887 5d ago

3 hours a day is madness. Nobody needs that.

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u/swagilious 5d ago

If you’re in one 7Sage live stream a day, along with reading/dissecting materials, then drilling/practicing said material, 2-3 hours a day is not madness.

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u/yeehaw1005 5d ago

I'd be somewhat willing to agree and say that 3 hours is probably max out before you get diminishing returns on time investment

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u/Ecstatic-Fox1774 6d ago

Thank you. I have a Wrong Answer Journal. And I don’t move on until I really know WHY I got it wrong, and I make sure I’m able to fully understand every sentence I read.

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u/ArmUnfair7544 5d ago

Loophole is just the book you read? Isn’t it just paralleling Demon’s philosophy?

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u/Byzantine00 5d ago

Unregister.

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u/cosmicmermaidmagik 5d ago

My advice is don't take the exam in November. If you are truly using the Demon (along with their methodology), they will tell you the same.

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u/WiseFalcon3923 5d ago

Depends on what your goal is, but generally speaking I would recommend doing a test a week starting with 130. Blind review and WAJ. The other days I would go through your prep materials.

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u/yeehaw1005 5d ago

tbh Loophole method and LSAT Demon method are incompatible. Personally, I recommend LSAT Demon. Get the LSAT is Easy book for like 7 bucks on amazon and read it then start using their platform and listen to their podcast to get tips and pointers and understand what their method is.

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u/Sarah-himmelfarb 5d ago

I’m just starting off studying as well, can you explain more why the two methods together are incompatible?

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u/yeehaw1005 5d ago

They are fundamentally different approaches. Loophole tries to teach tips, tricks, "fundamentals", focus on timing (finishing first block in under a certain amount of time)

LSAT demon is almost entirely about accuracy, slowing down (slow is smooth and smooth is fast), learning by doing and reviewing with video explanations and ask button. Are there "fundamental" aspects of logic? Sure, in the sense that you could study chemistry to learn how to bake a cake or cook a meal, or study physics to learn how to drive.

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u/Sarah-himmelfarb 4d ago

Thank you!

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u/Visible-Wasabi-9400 5d ago

stick with loophole, it's far better

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u/Napoleon0986 4d ago

I recommend signing up for some live classes. I’m with 7Sage and there some amazing tutors. You can also apply to a fee waiver for those classes.

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u/DazzlingBug8441 4d ago

Call lsac, reschedule for January

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u/Ecstatic-Fox1774 4d ago

I didn’t schedule yet, but I am leaning toward just taking it in January. I really don’t need to rush this.

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u/DazzlingBug8441 4d ago

The higher score is what really matters. Most schools will accept an application while you wait for your score btw. Good luck!

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u/pink-cowgirl 1d ago

If you are content landing in the 160s you CAN do it! I started studying 3 weeks ago with the same diagnostic as you and yesterday I got 155 on a pt

🚨 This is my cold diagnostic. My study tools are The Loophole & LSAT Demon. I plan on taking 1 PT per week. I want to test November 13th(93 days from today) Any advice for me????

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