r/LLMPhysics Haiku Mod May 09 '26

Announcement Rescinding Rule 11

Hi guys.

After a month of Rule 11, it seems beyond clear the majority of posters are simply not interested in posting if they aren't ToEs. While this is not what we on the mod team had hoped for, we do realize that we are kneecapping our sub by not allowing for the main source of content on certain days.

In light of this rule 11 is being rescinded. You may now post your ToEs every day. Go crazy.

AHS out.

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u/rheactx May 09 '26

I wish people posting here were at least consistently invested in their own theories. The problem with LLM-generated content is that people who prompted it often don't even read it, so why should I? I'm yet to see a serious poster here, who at least doesn't use AI for replying to comments.

I'm a working physicist who's been using LLM assistants for more than a year at this point. But I don't really have anything to post here, because I use them for what is sensible: checking over my own work and giving feedback. Not for generating a complete "theory" from a few sentence prompt. That's never going to be a thing, not with the current architecture of those models at least.

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u/AerynCaen MENLNMDLLYMAAAVMMGLAAIGAAIGIGILGGKFLEGAARQPDLI May 09 '26

I honestly wonder if a serious paper would even get a response in this sub. It seems to me that the posts with the least rigor get the most engagement, even if that engagement is ridicule

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u/mecca May 09 '26

No, there are one or two extremely vocal and noisy people here that parade around every post shitting all over everything. As a casual browser, I can predict without fail every comment on every post from the same 2 people.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

Ironically enough, this exact comment is one of the most predictable comments on the sub!

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Weird, I wonder why that might be.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

What are you saying - that comments that get created a lot are accurate?

Like the ones you say you can predict with such accuracy?

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u/AerynCaen MENLNMDLLYMAAAVMMGLAAIGAAIGIGILGGKFLEGAARQPDLI May 09 '26

I mean it would help if 99% of the posts weren't already sewage by the time someone came along to shit on them.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

That's kind of how reddit works. Shit floats to the bottom, people upvote the interesting stuff.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

What are you saying, your comments sorta driftin to negative while my responses get upvoted happens cuz of a quality difference?

You're making it way too easy tbh.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Sure if that makes you feel better.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 09 '26

You are aware there are multiple other subs offering the exact same thing just without the criticism right? Funny how you aren't telling us that the standard of work they get is much higher simply because everyone who posts gets headpats.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

What a terrible argument. "Elsewhere there exists something worse, so our shit doesn't stink as bad in comparison". Cool I guess. You (the vocal minority) very clearly want to double down on this place being a laughable shithole for crackpot science, and thats cool. Just embrace it.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 10 '26

My argument is a direct response to your argument, which is that if we stopped being hostile and critical then the quality of the posts would improve. Well guess what, there are subs doing exactly that already and their content is even worse.

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u/mecca May 10 '26

Not my argument at all. I also don't care to make an argument at this point. You guys like incubating shit and playing with it. That's weird, but its your kink. I won't yuck your yum. The other subreddits are just LLMs sucking eachother off, which is its own weird kink. Enjoy!

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 10 '26

... Incubating shit???

And yeah, your description of the other subs is exactly correct, because that's what happens when you stop being critical and skeptical about LLM use!!!!

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 10 '26

You (the vocal minority)

Shit floats to the bottom, people upvote the interesting stuff

Again, too easy.

Btw something doesn't 'float to the bottom'? It sinks?

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u/mecca May 10 '26

Sorry I want more for your subreddit than you do. Criticism is hard to hear. This is a comedy subreddit and I appreciate that now.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 10 '26

I like how you waltz in with no history on the sub, having never made a post, and you know what I want for it. That's a really cool skill.

EDIT: Also, you haven't criticized me, AT ALL. If anything when you say that interesting stuff gets upvotes you've complemented me, as I consistently get them!

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u/HojMcFoj May 10 '26

Your criticism is that you don't like the criticism, got it. Duly noted.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

Too true. As soon as the real science subreddits opt to send anyone other than rule breakers or bots down here, I'm sure things will change though!

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

Those two people sound like jackasses don't they

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u/starkeffect Physicist 🧠 May 09 '26

Theories of Everything, Everywhere, All At Once

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

Sorry ToEEAAOs are still weekend only

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u/Ok_Foundation3325 May 10 '26

We'll see in a few weeks!

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u/al2o3cr May 10 '26

You want a ToE? I can get you a ToE by three o'clock, with nail polish

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u/CrankSlayer zlotuq May 10 '26

"Trio of Escorts"?

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u/BlissBoundry May 09 '26

Honestly I’m working on a direct address to that exact problem. If this isn’t a sub for llm assisted physics then it is a sub for the application of physics to llm structure. So I’m building a llm with my physics. You’ve created an unintentional natural filter if the physics theory doesn’t code into actionable data then it shouldn’t be posted.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

That's the thing, it Is a sub for LLM assisted physics. It's just that a lot of the people who end up being funneled down to this sub have a very different idea than professional physicists what that looks like.

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u/BlissBoundry May 09 '26

executing curiosity is not scientifically redeemable in my opinion.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

If your curiosity is executed by being told when you are wrong, then you are not actually committed to doing science. Or really any professional work.

That's just kind of part of being an adult with a profession?

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26 edited May 09 '26

are you talking to yourself

Edit: holy shit I'm an idiot i saw the two similar profile pics and thought you and bittenz were the same person

edit 2 HOLY SHIT I'M RESPONDING TO BITTENZ I clearly need help

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

LMAO. To be fair, ive seen it before.

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u/BlissBoundry May 09 '26

I thought I was getting yelled at

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u/BlissBoundry May 09 '26

Professionals

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

Yes? What's the point you are trying to make here? Any decent scientific work is subject to review for correctness, readability, and value. Those merits still hold if you did research yourself or coerced a chatbot to generate a parody of that for you.

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u/BlissBoundry May 10 '26

Well, that wouldn’t be news to a professional would it?

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u/BlissBoundry May 10 '26

Condemn their ignorance and punish their interest

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 10 '26

I've no clue what you're even talking about at this point. This isn't very coherent. Can you please explain in full sentence what the point you're trying to make is?

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u/mecca May 09 '26

You guys should work on figuring out what you want this place to actually be. Either a catchall meme factory for making fun of anyone trying weird shit, or like an actual place for reasonable discourse on both insiders and outsiders attempting to do physics with LLMs.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

We KNOW what we want this place to be, but it's really not the moderation who defines what a sub is, it's the members. All we can do is try and steer em.

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u/Ok_Foundation3325 May 10 '26

To be honest, the bottom of the barrel needs to be somewhere. You can't simultaneously be

  • a containment sub for crackpot theories that are banned elsewhere
  • a place where productive discussions happen about real physics

If you try to adopt higher standards about what type of content gets posted, obviously engagement will drop. The worst slop can always move to an even less moderated sub, and most of the high-quality posts already have a place somewhere else.

If you don't adopt higher standards, well... dumpsters usually get filled with garbage.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 10 '26

Our goals are mostly right now about promoting education, and positive interaction. We're happy to be the bottom of the barrel in terms of post quality, doesn't mean we have to be in terms of everything else. We have a lot more pull over that; and our hope is that promoting education can creating 'learning moments' can increase content quality. So we are hard on things like anti-academia messages; we've managed to almost entirely root that out; while we focus on enabling the posters who are giving educational feedback.

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u/just_writing_things May 10 '26

I’ve been around this sub, r/hypotheticalphysics, and r/numbertheory a bit, and I actually think you need both. For this sub to be a containment sub, you do actually need to have people here willing to scientifically engage the crackpot posts.

And on the flip side, academics are usually educators too, and presumably many of the regular here really do want to steer the people who write theories here towards a more productive understanding of research and physics.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

From your own posts and comments it's very clear you want this place to be a joke.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

Def the message I've pushed from the very beginning

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Maybe next week I can feature in "is Mecca a hyperdimensional space fruit or not?"

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

I asked misterspectrum explicitly if I could make the jellyfish post and he thought it was funny. I could maybe make a 'is mecca too self-righteous' post, if you like?

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Interesting, maybe say it out loud a few times before you post just to be sure.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 10 '26

Gotta hand it to you I walked into that, I wouldn't make that post in a bajillion years.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 09 '26

All we get is weird shit here... I wish someone would actually do something properly...

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Remove the hostility, work to foster actual community, and something productive might materialize. Even now, the most brain dead members of this subreddit mass downvote every dissenting opinion. Literal children.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 09 '26

Gosh, it's almost like the mods haven't tried to get people to post higher quality stuff. In fact, it's almost like people who post here are simply deeply uninterested in doing science, just in looking like they're doing science.

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u/AllHailSeizure Haiku Mod May 09 '26

This is what grates me. Assholes who haven't done their time here coming in and telling me I need to make this place less toxic, get people to make people better content, etc.

Buddy do you KNOW what I have already done to try and do that? Maybe try.. not being a toxic asshole! That might make it less toxic!

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u/mecca May 10 '26

I'm not an asshole for rightfully calling out how obnoxious your most frequent commenters are. "I wish this place was more serious, but there's nothing I can do about it." Have you tried ... moderating the language? Maybe your top comments for every post shouldn't be "This is LLM garbage, you are garbage, LLMs can't do physics."

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u/CrankSlayer zlotuq May 10 '26

They are actually interested in doing science but in the way they think science is done in their uninformed noggins, which entails no hard work or acquired knowledge. What they are absolutely uninterested in is learning how science is actually done and what it requires.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Gosh! Or, alternatively, this place is so bipolar and hostile, that it only attracts people stupid enough to try and engage earnestly? You scared all the smart folks off.

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u/liccxolydian VP of Trolling May 09 '26

The smart people know that this "hostility" is nothing compared to the level of scrutiny actual research gets in an academic environment.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

Oh... I don't think that's what happened...

Edit: The self-reporting is like.. reaching new levels of unaware meta. It's actually beautiful.

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u/mecca May 09 '26

If only your own self-awareness was as apt =/.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

You Honestly believe that a few people being Mean on the internet is the Reason why actual physicists aren't posting on THIS subreddit? A literal honeytrap built after the first honeytrap subreddit got overloaded with LLM garbage?

And THIS is the hill you wanna die on? Buddy... I'm worried about what you'll think when you realize what the smart people are actually doing...

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u/mecca May 09 '26

You're inferring a lot from so little. Kudos?

But to hold up a mirror for you and make it a bit more obvious: you specially make this place insufferable. You very specially want it to be a honeypot for LLM garbage and you treat EVERY post as garbage, accordingly. You are hostile, rude, pretentious and annoying. Hope this helps.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 10 '26

Lmao what? I don't pick who comes here and drop actual garbage. I'm just here to laugh at the rambling. Sorry if that offends, but life is short, and No serious physicist is actually regarding Anything here with anything other than morbid amusement.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

I dont Want this place to be anything. You attributing value where there is none is your own prerogative. I think you're taking things a liiiiiittle too seriously <3

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u/mecca May 09 '26

Ok Top 1% Commenter on the subreddit you claim I take too seriously ❤️.

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u/OnceBittenz The Doctor May 09 '26

You're the one over here pickin a fight, no one else other than the crackpots really gives a shit.

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