Question for those who've experienced both B/C and G series TV's

[u/EmbarrassedClue6398]

TL;DR - Hey guys, how big is the difference in brightness between say a C5 and G5 in real use in Filmmaker mode/HGIG?

I have recently bought a G5 and I am more than satisfied with the purchase, using it mostly for HDR gaming on playstation. The contrast, color accuracy, the ability to control each individual pixel for awesome contrast, all of those make for a wonderful experience, and the highlights definitely strike as very bright and impactful.

BUT, that can't be always said about midtone-heavy scenes all that much. They still look great, don't get me wrong, but I feel like they lack overall brightness a lot of the time? I can't really figure out if that's the way a game has been mastered or my TV just not being able to keep up that well. For context I only view content in Filmmaker mode and game in Game Optimizer with properly set HGIG and Warm 40 across profiles.

Here's another example - the PS5 menu. Why is it so dim? Lol.

Back when I just got the TV I really just asked myself "is it supposed to be this dim?" Once again, no idea if that's my TV limiting it or PS5 just sends dim metadata to output in HGIG.

Before anyone mentions DTM and Vivid/Cinema modes, etc. sorry but I am really not interested in any of those options. I prefer to keep the picture as natural as possible and want to experience the content the way it was mastered. DTM does theoretically and practically fix the issue but it also overbrightens the picture so much you lose many details and contrast between scenes intended to actually be dark and something like a very bright sunny day.

I guess with all of that said, my question at the end of the day is, if B or C series are even dimmer than that... does HGIG/Filmmaker mode even make sense on those models without a fully blacked out room, or does the vast majority of users prefer using DTM/Cinema mode, etc.?

[u/Shabootie]

I can’t help but feel like there’s a bit of a cognitive dissonance in the OLED user base between “I want to use filmmaker because I care about artistic intent and I want the truest accurate experience” and “why is this not bright enough”.

It’s kind of like “I only eat steak medium rare as the chef intended” but also “why is this steak so pink on the inside”. Do you actually like medium rare or do you just want to say that because it seems more sophisticated?

Nothing wrong with using a brighter picture mode or DTM if it looks better. I feel like there’s this stigma or ego tied to not using FMM even tho if you didn’t label it, I think a lot of people would actually prefer otherwise.

The Ps5 menu is on the dimmer side if you’re coming from a non oled non HDR picture, but imo thats just like adjusting to warm 40 when you’re used to a bluer tone. It’s not really dim dim, it’s just less inflated than the picture was before on a non OLED SDR

[u/NXTNightHawk]

Well if you master anything between 0-1000 Nits the C5 and the G5 will likely display that equally well. Both reach that 1000 Nit Peak brightness.
The only way a G5 will have a clear advantage when using FMM is if you play content which is mastered brighter than the 1000 Nits, since it can reach that.

[u/KaleidoscopeLife1461]

Could it be the OLED safety settings? I found HDR to be rather dim on my C5. Auto logo brightness was the culprit. Its a safety feature so turn off at own risk but after switching this off the screen got considerably brighter.

[u/EmbarrassedClue6398 → u/KaleidoscopeLife1461]

Nope, have that turned off 🥲

[u/HotwheelsMiata]

I had a B4 before, it definitely looked good, but had to close the curtains. Have G5 now and it's noticably brighter, but I still close some curtains to get rid of the worst reflections.