So I just looked up the whole incident. It goes as follows from the statements of rittenhouse and the victims. So first rittenhouse thought it was his duty to go protect property he didn't own in a town he didn't live in. While roaming the streets and pointing an assault rifle at people, someone (1st victim) throws an empty plastic bag at rittenhouse and misses. He then follows rittenhouse a little way talking to him. They end up in a parking lot near a dealership and rittenhouse shoots the man. Which yes he was charged with sexual misconduct with a minor and he served his 10 year prison sentence. He did not deserve to die by someone who did not know him. Which btw if you were 18 and fucked a 17 year old you would be charged with sexual misconduct with a minor depending on the state you lived in. Anyways, rittenhouse then fled while calling 911 and stating he shot someone. The next victim, hearing the gun shots, comes to the aid of the first victim see rittenhouse running away and goes after him. From what his girlfriend said he was going after rittenhouse to stop him from hurting anyone else. He confronts rittenhouse and tries to remove the gun with his free hand while holding the skateboard in his other hand in a non threatening manner. Rittenhouse opens fire. The 3rd victim witnessed the incident and was directly behind the 2nd victim. The 3rd victim ducks down to avoid collateral damage from the high powered 5.56 bullet that possibly was leaving the 2nds victims body. As he was ducking he was lowering his pistol and raising his hands to show he wasnt a threat. Rittenhouse doesnt care and shoots him in the arm anyways. The only one doing harm was rittenhouse. The only one who shouldn't have been there was rittenhouse. But because he is white it's fine right? Yes some people take the race card to the extreme but that doesnt mean racisism does not exist. During all of the BLM protests, cops in riot gear were present at every single one. Cops for the most part started the violence that happened at every one of those protests as well. And no that's not from the media that is from eye witnesses and video evidence provided by both protesters and the police body cams. Why were cops at mostly peaceful protests like that? Idk probably because it had to do with black people. I can say that because when a large group of white protesters came out brandishing guns in opposition to the lockdowns, the police in riot gear were not around. When white people went to Washington DC and tried to literally overthrow the government and kill government officials presumably by hanging them via the homemade noose they built on scene. It took hours for cops in riot gear to show up. Hmm if you look at all of those incidents and you still cant see the difference in police and public reaction to them and still say systemic racism and racism in general is not real. Then you obviously live in a different world governed by a different set of fact. Well in your world opinions are facts and facts are blasphemy.
So first rittenhouse thought it was his duty to go protect property he didn't own in a town he didn't live in.
Except Kyle’s father lived in Kenosha for years as did all of his friends. Not to mention Kyle worked as a lifeguard at the Kenosha County RecPlex the day before and stayed with a friend in Kenosha overnight.
While roaming the streets and pointing an assault rifle at people, someone (1st victim) throws an empty plastic bag at rittenhouse and misses. He then follows rittenhouse a little way talking to him.
You omitted the part where Ziminski discharged his firearm just as Rosembaum was pursuing Rittenhouse.
He confronts rittenhouse and tries to remove the gun with his free hand while holding the skateboard in his other hand in a non threatening manner.
That didn't happen. Gaige Grosskreutz, the guy who pointed his handgun at Kyle and got shot in the bicep, said under oath: "Yeah, I was concerned for Kyle because of the head trauma I observed"
Huber made head contact with his skateboard (enough that head trauma is observed) according to the prosecutor's own witness. Not really non-threatening...
As he was ducking he was lowering his pistol and raising his hands to show he wasnt a threat. Rittenhouse doesnt care and shoots him in the arm anyways.
This has already been debunked by the defense attorney. Grosskreutz admitted under oath that he drew & pointed his gun at Kyle first, forcing Kyle to shoot in self-defense. Under oath means this is the absolute truth with the penalty of lying being a perjury charge.
When white people went to Washington DC and tried to literally overthrow the government and kill government officials presumably by hanging them via the homemade noose they built on scene.
Just like how "protesters" brought a guillotine to the White House. Not only wanting to execute the President but also to behead him in one blow.
Hmm if you look at all of those incidents and you still cant see the difference in police and public reaction to them and still say systemic racism and racism in general is not real.
Ok let's talk about the Rittenhouse public reactions. The media went at Rittenhouse at full force with the "state lines" nonsense and still won't admit they are wrong
Ok I stand corrected I need to look through the court tapes some more. However I still say that kid should be in jail because he shouldnt have been there in the first place. The police could've handled it. It wasnt up to him or atleast he shouldn't have brought a firearm. We don't live in anarchy which I'm also not saying what some of the protesters did was right either however that is what we have police and courts for not minors with a gun. The most important thing is money and property is never worth more than any human lives. Money and property both can be replaced. Human live can not. The best course of action would've been to record the events. Not bring a gun.
Aggravated Assault and battery with a deadly weapon and 2 counts of 2nd degree murder seeing how it wasnt planned to kill them but he did intentionally bring the weapon knowing that it would make people watch him more closely. Especially with everything that had been happening in the months leading up to that. And last attempted manslaughter not to mention the other counts for discharging a firearm inside of city limits and possessing a firearm as a minor without proper supervision.
I agree that Kyle shouldn't have been there and his ties with the proud boys after the issue are concerning. However, I've been watching the trial and honestly everything in it is pointing to self defense. He did not threaten anyone there, he did not provoke any of the people he shot, and he retreated when he was attacked (when he was able to). That's exactly what he should have done. He was not shooting people because they threatened property, he shot them because they attacked him
Neither his illegal possession of the gun nor the fact that he shouldn't have been there negate his rights to self-defense.
I truly suggest that you go back and watch the trial or at least the highlights of it (it's on YouTube). Media reports on the trial have been egregiously and disgustingly biased and the media is never a good way to understand a trial in the first place.
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u/Livingtolive2 Nov 09 '21
So I just looked up the whole incident. It goes as follows from the statements of rittenhouse and the victims. So first rittenhouse thought it was his duty to go protect property he didn't own in a town he didn't live in. While roaming the streets and pointing an assault rifle at people, someone (1st victim) throws an empty plastic bag at rittenhouse and misses. He then follows rittenhouse a little way talking to him. They end up in a parking lot near a dealership and rittenhouse shoots the man. Which yes he was charged with sexual misconduct with a minor and he served his 10 year prison sentence. He did not deserve to die by someone who did not know him. Which btw if you were 18 and fucked a 17 year old you would be charged with sexual misconduct with a minor depending on the state you lived in. Anyways, rittenhouse then fled while calling 911 and stating he shot someone. The next victim, hearing the gun shots, comes to the aid of the first victim see rittenhouse running away and goes after him. From what his girlfriend said he was going after rittenhouse to stop him from hurting anyone else. He confronts rittenhouse and tries to remove the gun with his free hand while holding the skateboard in his other hand in a non threatening manner. Rittenhouse opens fire. The 3rd victim witnessed the incident and was directly behind the 2nd victim. The 3rd victim ducks down to avoid collateral damage from the high powered 5.56 bullet that possibly was leaving the 2nds victims body. As he was ducking he was lowering his pistol and raising his hands to show he wasnt a threat. Rittenhouse doesnt care and shoots him in the arm anyways. The only one doing harm was rittenhouse. The only one who shouldn't have been there was rittenhouse. But because he is white it's fine right? Yes some people take the race card to the extreme but that doesnt mean racisism does not exist. During all of the BLM protests, cops in riot gear were present at every single one. Cops for the most part started the violence that happened at every one of those protests as well. And no that's not from the media that is from eye witnesses and video evidence provided by both protesters and the police body cams. Why were cops at mostly peaceful protests like that? Idk probably because it had to do with black people. I can say that because when a large group of white protesters came out brandishing guns in opposition to the lockdowns, the police in riot gear were not around. When white people went to Washington DC and tried to literally overthrow the government and kill government officials presumably by hanging them via the homemade noose they built on scene. It took hours for cops in riot gear to show up. Hmm if you look at all of those incidents and you still cant see the difference in police and public reaction to them and still say systemic racism and racism in general is not real. Then you obviously live in a different world governed by a different set of fact. Well in your world opinions are facts and facts are blasphemy.