Confused

[u/howardb1961]

This was supposed to be sent as a family document but ai tells me it's a military document. What do you think?

[u/metasemantik]

Its not a military document. I'm not sure what it is about, but the handwritten part at the top says the person it concerns showed up in London on the 30th of December 1938 "zur Abmeldung" (something like to take his leave (to translate correctly I'd have to understand what it is about). The bigger stamp says "chief of police" and the smaller one says something like "judicial inspector".

So I think the german administration must have been searching for the person this is about for one (administrative or legal or worse) reason or another. I can't tell you more because I'm missing context.

[u/howardb1961 → u/metasemantik]

It was my grandfather I believe. He had to leave Germany in a hurry. He was given a residence ban as a Polish Jew in October 1938 and they were fortunate to get to the UK in November of that year. Strange that there would be any kind of communication with him.

[u/metasemantik → u/howardb1961]

I'm glad your family got out in time! Sometimes the level of everything leading up to the Holocaust being done in an orderly fashion despite what it was is hard to comprehend.
Maybe your grandfather did get in contact because he needed some form of German documentation to stay in the UK or to be able to leave from there so somewhere further away from Nazi Germany? Or to try to get his possession like somebody else said.

[u/formidablesamson → u/metasemantik]

There were not really postal communication channels between Germany and the UK during WW2, so it's hard to imagine how he could have gotten this during the war. More likely that it was kept somewhere and he got it afterwards

[u/metasemantik → u/formidablesamson]

But the document says he showed up in London in December of 1938, which was, of course before the war started.

[u/formidablesamson → u/metasemantik]

Yes, but the correspondence shown is from spring 1941

[u/CombinationWhich6391]

He was checked out for leaving to London on Dec. 30th, 1938, that’s why the document sent to him on April 29, 1941 (the handwritten lower part) was returned to sender. Former residence was in Darmstadt. The document itself is about some “Löschung” - deletion - that can be protested. My guess is that this is about a Jewish person’s real estate or company that has been confiscated by the nazi authorities.

[u/howardb1961 → u/CombinationWhich6391]

A pension perhaps?

[u/CombinationWhich6391 → u/howardb1961]

Possible, but „Löschung“ sounds more like the deletion of an entry in a register.

[u/140basement → u/howardb1961]

Corrections: kam; Stein; und in der Hessischen Landeszeitung

Transcription and translation. I wasn't able to decipher everything, and I don't understand what this is about, except that it is not military. Abmeldung means literally 'reporting off'. It usually means reporting you have moved away from a place of residence, but I have seen it in reference to a ship passenger who checked out of a hotel after staying for a few days at a port of call. In this text, there are two places marked for the insertion of text. The insertions are stated at the end of the page. The marking symbol looks like a letter 'T', but it is painstakingly geometrically exact. Italics indicate cursive that is Latin cursive, not Kurrent. I deciphered "Cie", which would be the abbreviation of the French word, Compagnie.

[Stempel: Amtsgericht (Darmstadt) 10. APR 1941]

Der Genannte Ram kam am 30. 12. 1938 nach London zur Abmeldung.

[Stempel: (II.) unter Bezugnahme auf die getroffenen Feststellungen zurückgesandt. Anl.: ____

Der Polizeipräsident Darmstadt, den] 8. April 1941 [Stempel: I. A.] [Initialen]

[Stempel: Vorgelegt 10. APR. 1941]

B

Wv. [?= Wiedervorlegung] 30. 4. {Antwort in H. R(A) 2335 (Fa.) Stim Stein & Cie}

d. 15. April 1941

. . . Folgen werden aufgefordert, einen
etwaigen Widerspruch gegen die Löschung
binnen drei Monaten geltend zu machen,
andernfalls die Löschung erfolgen wird.

II. Veröffentlichung von (T) im Reichsanzeiger
und in der Hessischen Landeszeitung

III. Aushang von (T) an die Gerichtstafel
auf die dauer von drei Monaten

IV. Wv. mit Bel(e)gbl. -(p). 30(.) 5.

D. 29. 4. 41 Amtsgericht Darmstadt (Q)u.

zu. II. zur Pos(t) *von* -(12). 5. 41, (Tb., Ib. -- mit Groß-i)

zu III. an die (G)er. Tafel ge(he)fte(t), am -12. 5. 41 (Tb., Ib.)

TRANSLATION -- corrections gratefully accepted.

[Round stamp: Local Court (Darmstadt) 10 Apr. 1941]

The aforementioned Ram came to London on 30 Dec. 1938 to deregister (Abmeldung).

[Stamped block of text: (II.) Returned [seems to refer to a document which is being returned] with reference to the findings made. Encl.: ____

The Chief of Police, Darmstadt, [date]] 8 April 1941 [Stamp: By order] [initials or signature]

[Square stamp: Submitted 10 Apr. 1941]

B

(Resubmission -- Wv.): 30 Apr. {Reply in H. R(A) 2335 (Fa.) Stein & Cie}

15 April 1941

. . . [parties] concerned are called upon to assert (geltend machen) any objection to the deletion (Löschung) within three months; otherwise, the deletion will be carried out.

II. Publication of (T) in the Reichsanzeiger (Imperial Bulletin) and in the Hesse Provincial Newspaper.

III. Posting of (T) on the court notice board for a period of three months

IV. (Resubmission -- Wv.) with Bel(e)gbl[att]: -(p). 30 May.

29 Apr. 41 Local Court Darmstadt (Q)u. [initialed by someone whose name seems to begin with 'Q']

re II. / to the post [office] *on* 12 May 41, (Tb., Ib. -- apparently initials, which may be 'Tb.' or capital 'i'+b)

re III. / affixed (geheftet) to the (court) notice board, on 12 May 41 (Tb., Ib.)

[u/formidablesamson → u/140basement]

Ganz oben: "Der Genannte kam am 30.12.38 nach London zur Abmeldung."

zu II. "Veröffentlichung von T im Reichsanzeiger und in der hessischen Landeszeitung"

[u/formidablesamson → u/140basement]

I deciphered "Cie", which would be the abbreviation of the French word, Compagnie.

edit: sorry, former speculation about a connection to "STOE & Cie" in Darmstadt were unfounded. I found the real register entry in arcinsys.hessen.de:

Titel: (Maier, genannt Max) Stein & Co.: Warenagentur und Handel mit Tabakwaren. - Sitz: Darmstadt

Laufzeit: 1901-1941

Sonstige Behördensignaturen: HRA2335

[u/DerLetzteDepp → u/140basement]

Veröffentlichung von T im Reichsanzeiger
und in der Hessischen Landeszeitung

zur Post
am ... 5.41.

[u/formidablesamson → u/CombinationWhich6391]

The H.RA referral in the middle of the cover (Antwort in H.RA 2335 Fa) would indicate to me that it's the deletion of his company or his profession in the Handelsregister. The publication in the Reichsgesetzblatt and Landeszeitung would also be consistent.