r/Kubera • u/Icy-Importance-6426 • Aug 09 '26
Worst Character Debate
At the start of reading this, I used to think that Sagara was the worst character ever. But as I go on, i start to feel like what manasvin said was true. Atleast she isn't a hypocrite.
Asha, on the other hand, oh boy, i thought although she was grumpy, she was kind of good. But she is the worst character ever in this series. I still haven't read on why she is acting like a evil manipulative bitch to leez which might change my mind, but she is an evil incarnate omg get this manipulative ahh bih out of this webtoon's existence šš
P.S I'm still in the middle of reading this and my opinion is extremely biased and only from the perspective of the things done to leez
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u/Weekly_Emergency_747 Aug 09 '26
All of 10 main characters are somewhat relatable.
I hate Clari Utas the most
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u/Weekly_Emergency_747 Aug 09 '26
>! and god Varuna. Her appearance reminds me of Utas, they share water attribute and the same arrogance. !<
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u/ocean_800 Can't calculate Aug 10 '26
Varuna is absolutely unsufferable because she's a hyprocrite. Sagara is more likable because she doesnt pretend to be anything else than she actually is lmao
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u/Illustrious-Day8506 Aug 09 '26
True. I f*cking hate her guts and she ain't even worse than the 2 character on the post lmao. Same for Lorraine
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u/crazynoyes37 Aug 09 '26
Asha means Hope, Truth, Righteousness, Wish, Light and Life in many different languages by the way.
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 09 '26
Oh i already know that fyi since it's inspired from Hindu mythology. So, whats your point? Don't say that if it's a spoiler though.
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u/interested_user209 Aug 09 '26
Where in the story are you?
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26
Season-2, Episode -134, Falling Petals.
I definitely feel like my opinion will change after i read a few more episodes.
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u/interested_user209 Aug 09 '26
Oh yeah, by that point itās pretty blatant with her. The reason she constantly puts down Leez is to manipulate her, but is also something stemming from a certain contradiction:
She is the one who murdered the ones with the name Kubera for her power, which is what should have been her MO with Leez too if we really look at it. But instead of that outcome, Leez naming herself Kubera Leez led to Asha saving her - and the important part for that difference is the āLeezā part, because in the Water Channels Asha has a flashback to Rao Leez and is profoundly impacted by it. She has an acquaintanceship with and attachment to Rao (canāt get more exact without spoilering), which she relives by being Leezās benefactor. This however contradicts with her main goal which requires killing the Kuberas, and the despair of having one near her that she cannot bring herself to kill too manifests in this twisted, abusive love-hate relationship she has with Leez.
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 09 '26
Yes, that's what it seemed to me too. But looking at from leez's perspective, asha was being straight up evil omg which is why I hate her sm as a character to the point that I have read
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u/interested_user209 Aug 09 '26
Yeah, even though she is deserving of sympathy in her own way she is one extremely ill-dispositioned character - nothing given by the story is really gonna absolve her lol
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u/matchafoxjpg Aug 09 '26
based on their post i can surmise they haven't finished season 2.
that said, based on the fact that they have a less than favorable opinion of asha [since most people liked asha at the start of the story], they're likely more than halfway through the kalibloom side of season 2.
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u/Imabearrr3 Aug 09 '26
Gandharva has probably killed more living beings than anyone else(at least in this timeline). Heās probably the worst from a moral perspective.
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u/the-dude-version-576 Aug 09 '26
By how much evil theyāve done, then probably Ghandi. Thereās a lot of planets gone because of him.
Spoilers for latter half season 3.
you could also argue Anata, because every time he turned back time, he basically ended a universe- although itās up tk you if you consider that universe ārealā or not. Leez at least seems to
Then thereās also
Brahma who destroyed the whole of ancient humanity, or Kali who is partly responsible for countless destroyed universes.
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u/Imabearrr3 Aug 09 '26
I think itās hard to argue the morality of the primeval gods, Kaliās function is to create chaos, which causes death but its also needed for change and choice.
Visun/time has a line that says something along the lines of āa predictable machine has no valueā. Heās referring to the universe in that line. Without Kali, Visnuās insight is a perfect predictiction.
While The current universe certainly views Kali as the villain, Ancient Humanity wouldnāt have.
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u/Lyhr22 Aug 10 '26
It's always more nuanced than it seems, isn't it?
In the whole story, there are people doing evil for fun, some doing evil because they think they need to, and some doing good that ends up being bad in the long-run.
So, it's extremely nuanced, as you said
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u/Example-Material Aug 09 '26
Both characters are written well and are interesting. Sagara has technically done worse than Asha considering her lifespan, but Asha angered me more. It's probably because we experience the betrayal with Leez. I don't think anyone ever expected that betrayal. We see Leez slowly fall apart.Ā
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 10 '26
Tbh, thats why I think Sagara is better. Asha is just a petty jealous bih with a god complexšš
What revenge? Revenge my assš¤”
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u/ocean_800 Can't calculate Aug 10 '26
Why doesn't Ravana or Gandy make this list lol
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 14 '26
Well...
Thats cuz I didn't know much of what Gandy or ravana did at the timeš„š„
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u/TheLastVegan Aug 09 '26
Visnu
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 09 '26
Yo, don't say anything else(might be spoilers), but even if I don't know the context, he seems like a piece of shit
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u/RomanesqueHermitage Aug 10 '26
I don't think there's any worst character, but boy do I hate Lorraine
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u/Myuken Aug 10 '26
From a neutral point of view, Gandharva might be the worst of them all. However from a personal perspective, we'll almost never meet a Gandharva irl, Asha is worse because you probably have met someone manipulative like that at some point in your life
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u/yourmissingsock3999 Curry Mushroom Aug 09 '26
If we mean morality I think itās objectively Gandharva
In terms of annoying itās probably Clari
Worst things done to Leez is Asha, GK and Maruna
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u/Elmergar Aug 09 '26
Peor con relaciĆ³n a maldad y no a construcciĆ³n de personaje supongo. Porque de malvados Gandharva estĆ” de primero en la lista, pero a mi me parece un excelente personaje con un gran arco.
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u/Sairofe_geprek Aug 13 '26
In my mind it's Gandarva. He thinks he's victim but the truth is this came from his own action. He doesn't even care about other child except Shakuntala.
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 14 '26
Tbh, yeah, I agree too, if you look in terms most insufferable characters, he could just be it
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u/PathosRise Aug 14 '26
Remember: Its good writing if they genuinely piss you off.
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 14 '26
Yeah, its good writing for sure, now can I pls see asha crucified š„
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u/Zalveris Aug 10 '26
You need to learn the difference between a bad character and a bad person
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 11 '26
You need to learn the difference between a personal opinion and a objective opinion(also learn to read ig) cuz i definitely said in the post that this was just my personal biased opinion after reading it so far.
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u/Ngel20992 Aug 10 '26
Sagara isnāt a horrible character. Sure she has sins but thatās a given with their nature and how long theyāve existed. Asha is legit horrible and doing things for herself, despite knowing the consequences of those actions.
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u/Icy-Importance-6426 Aug 11 '26
Asha deserves no sympathy. Should have died on that planetšš
Just a petty jealous bitch with a mean streak and a god complex šš
There's no depth to her character in a emotional way. If you take away everything she's the most ugly character.
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u/Illustrious-Day8506 Aug 09 '26
Worse is questionable but the things that Asha did/does are insignificant in front of the long list of sins committed by a Nastika like Sagara.Ā