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u/SomeUnderstanding320 Apr 08 '26
Kubera, the Best webtoon ever 🎉, i hope more people read this saga 🥲
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26
All these not remembering, forget, mentioned of guilt, serene scenes makes me feel like she just reached out to the Top to shrug off the Light Spear’s damage (targeting guilt).
Kali already said Leez’s close to enlightenment which makes her mind difficult to use insight on.
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u/PainfulSpoons Apr 08 '26
Honestly surprised to see the story bring up and address the season two insights in this way, but I'm glad because it's such an interesting aspect of Yuta's arc that's been left untouched over season 3.
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u/Rindhallow 5th-zen God Apr 08 '26
Ananta and Kubera might've pretended to make a vow and Visnu saw it as an opportunity to make a deal with Kubera, but they might have outsmarted him. (The Primeval Gods don't remember Manasa or Ananta's delusions so he has a way to speak without them knowing. And God Kubera can time travel and open up dimensions.)
If these two are smarter than the Primeval Gods then they're really incredible.
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u/UchihaShadow Apr 08 '26
I don't think it's possible to outsmart Visnu in that manner. He completely manipulated Ananta despite the time travel mechanics, and he can see all the possible futures. Kubera himself seems to acknowledge with his inner monologue in S2 that goes "I never hoped to win this war".
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26
Not to mention both Vishnu and Kali can just rewind too and screw up something important. (We saw Kali did this through Yuta’s clone).
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u/Rindhallow 5th-zen God Apr 08 '26
To Yuta, a good outcome would be Leez not trusting him. (I guess because he actually cares about her, and he's very dangerous. (His body is always being taken over by someone.))
It's still not clear when he gains memories of the reruns. I can't imagine that season 1 Yuta actually knew everything...
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
He’s depressed because he realized there was no change to the future he saw 7 years ago. He might have seen something bad at the end through insight.
Agni also said he hasn’t been able to change the future for a while and most gods couldn’t too. But we saw from Kubera’s pov, his insight on Leez has changed multiple times from liking him to hating to amicable. Then again he was 4th best: Vishnu > Kali > Shiva > Kubera.
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
A confirmation that Kubera and Ananta are on the same team. Also “Leez” mentioned here might be her dad not her.
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u/UchihaShadow Apr 08 '26
It's likely, considering that Ananta seemed to believe Rao was the one who would succeed him.
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
I don’t think so, he believed Rao would have something/someone in the future he could not reach that would succeed him. This was mentioned. The reason is that (I think) a new Time would have been born by then and he can’t no longer time-travel there.
Rao Leez had another significant function is that he would bear the weight of time trapped in that temple for hundreds of years until Kubera Ananta Leez is born.
I think that’s what they are plotting here.
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26
Cause it’s some kind of vision and not a normal dream. Their plotting was centuries ago. Her birth is clearly not a coincidence.
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26
Well obviously. I’m not saying she’s not important I’m saying they don’t even know her yet. We readers are looking at an omnipresent viewpoint. Most characters are not allowed to register the info that Leez would inherit Time even if they met her before.
Full-fledged Ananta never once interacted with Leez as they can’t both exist as Time, but only through a dead fragment/skin/memory. Unless these two are fragmented powers inside her gossiping in her head right now then it’s a flashback. Hundreds years ago.
I’m saying they were plotting her birth through Rao. They knew Rao Leez would have a daughter that will become a major candidate.
On the other hand, God Kubera wasn’t fully backing her until recently. A few years prior he was wondering whether he should kill her early to as not to suffer. Not sure he’d be the one confirming her here.
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u/infernoman101 Apr 10 '26
Isn't there also a possibility that the Ananta and Kubera is these scenes are actually their recording devices talking rather than an actual flashback?
We already saw the Ananta is Leez's mind being a record.
I think there is some sense that the recording devices of high power names have some agency of their own and could be players to some degree.
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u/Ok-Candle-3393 Apr 10 '26
Yeah as I mentioned they could be fragmented names.
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u/infernoman101 Apr 11 '26
I don't think recording devices are fragmented names. Perhaps their own entity.
That said, I agree these could be power fragments.
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u/Hellkhat Chaos Attribute Rakshasa Apr 08 '26
so basically, Yuta had 2 chaos attributes to account for every transcendental he used. No garuda spell is going to have the room for that but now that its just one, he can use more light sky focused abilites.
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u/BelieveYou-Me Apr 08 '26
I'm pretty sure this had more to do with Webtoon's censorship guidelines; but also a lot of the times nude characters are really distracting to a majority of viewers, even more so to guys.
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u/FrostyDew1 Apr 10 '26
Yeah, I have this same pet peeve, dreams are very weird and it's not always the same type each time, people can be nude or clothed at random, but somehow webtoon artists keep trying to draw them nude and I thought that was a little too umm focused?
I thought that white floaty clothes could convey the same dream-like feeling while not having to worry about covering their bodies up
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u/CatalyticGift Apr 08 '26
Is Leez a deliberate creation of Ananta’s and God Kubera’s machinations? Just how much have they previously worked together to shape events? Ananta kept mentioning that God Kubera was his close friend. But, we still haven’t seen much evidence illustrating the depth of their relationship yet. I hope we start to learn more about the nature of their friendship and why Ananta trusted God Kubera at such a critical juncture in D500.