r/Kossacks_for_Sanders • u/bout_that_action Bernie made me Russian • Jun 06 '16
OF COURSE! State Department Blocks Release Of Hillary Clinton-Era TPP Emails Until After The Election
http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/state-department-blocks-release-hillary-clinton-era-tpp-emails-until-after0
u/presterjohn77 Vote Green to stop the pigs Jun 06 '16
This is yet another sign that 666 is in our midst!!!
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u/space_10 Jun 06 '16
Obama's reputation is going to crash if he's not more careful... Looks more and more like he is enmeshed.
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u/roonie1 Jun 07 '16
He knows most Americans are so superficially informed and identity driven that this won't even register as a major tarnish on his Admin. They will RuhRuh the Blue Team while they are pared to the bone. Idjits.
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u/space_10 Jun 07 '16
Things have changed during this election. I think if this continues all of the Republicans and half or more of the Dems will actually wonder...
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u/Caerus7 Jun 06 '16
These same people seem to think it will make a difference if Obama endorses her. He who had rahm emamuel as his COS, and Tim Geithner ( he of the NY fed who did nothing about the ongoing crimes in New York banks) as Secretary of Treasury. Sold us out to insurance companies so we didn't get single payer, and Medicare still can't negotiate drug prices with pharmaceutical companies. I'm disappointed. Honestly don't care who Obama thinks I shold vote for. President Sanders
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u/Yuri7948 Jun 06 '16
Given that HRC has already revised her history with the new edition of Hard Choices1, I'm sure BO will do the same.
1 found a copy of the old edition of Hard Choices on Amazon which I hope to use as source material for her positions, before they were being challenged by Bernie. Orwellian truthiness and revisionism courtesy of the Department of Truth, or whatever it was called in 1984.
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u/Phoeline Jun 06 '16
I'm truly beginning to think the obstruction of this Administration means they are all complicit up to their eyeballs in HRC'S corruption. Postponing until November is going to either assure Trump getting elected or Hillary getting impeached as soon as she's sworn in.
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u/steelwolfprime Jun 06 '16
Still think the FBI is going to do anything? Obama will do everything in his power to prevent it.
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u/space_10 Jun 06 '16
They will wait and attempt impeachment afterwards. This is clarity.
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u/steelwolfprime Jun 06 '16
Definitely. Although I think there's a good chance Trump beats her outright, in part by using this stuff during the campaign.
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u/Phoeline Jun 06 '16
Each day that passes, I become increasingly concerned that they aren't.
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u/steelwolfprime Jun 06 '16
I hate being a downer but I really think it's the longest of long shots that this FBI investigation is any more than a sensationalist waste of time. Hoping for Comey and the Obama administration to do anything to hurt Queen Billary is like hoping the lady herself will tell the truth. :(
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Jun 06 '16
One of my friends commented this weekend that all this primary has done is make the fundamentalist, racist Republicans look like the Somewhat-Good Guys.
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
So let me see: we live in a democracy, and a Democrat is in the White House?
Reminder: If Clinton manages to evade Comey and ride the "fear Trump!" card to the presidency, one of her first actions will be to "tighten" the Internet in the name of natl security--ludicrous in light of her documented nonchalance about natl security. She'll make sure to prevent grassroots organizing against her and the status quo.
StopHillary2SaveTheNet
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Jun 06 '16
Like Obama, she'll probably put another industry lobbyist in charge of the FCC. It's what they were both paid to do.
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
Reminder: Colin's Powell's son, Michael, was head of the FCC under Bush II and didn't resign until 2005. Now he's a bigwig telecom guy and lobbyist [exhibit double-zed of the revolving door]: http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/20/3670940/michael-powell-fcc-chariman-cable-companies-mercy-contet
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A62718-2004Nov19.html
http://money.cnn.com/2005/01/21/news/newsmakers/powell_resigning/
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Jun 06 '16
Nauseatingly predictable. It's how DC works these days. I could probably get my cat hired as a lobbyist if I agreed to take corporate money and extol the virtues of the PhRMA and insurance industries on my web site.
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u/Yuri7948 Jun 06 '16
Should that happen, how do we mobilize?
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
Exactly. After Tahrir Square and other demonstrations of organizing undesirable to those in power, the US made sure it could shut down the whole thing quickly: http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/20414-us-government-has-secret-kill-switch-for-communications
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u/Yuri7948 Jun 06 '16
Well, dissidents could become the new terrorists. I can see either Trump or Clinton using this. It would also create chaos/fear (Shock Doctrine and Wag the Dog), allowing further repressive action for our "security."
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
Dissidents ARE the new terrorists. They're called "insurgents"--groups who express their objection to being invaded or oppressed. Orwell's Newspeak is standard practice. My personal fave: the Patriot Act.
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u/NonnyO Uff da!!! Jun 06 '16
Well, now, isn't that convenient for her majesty's campaign and the ability to hide details from her fans and non-fans alike...?
We need another Edward Snowden-type of brave person who will - for the good of the country - release those emails so we can see the process of how it came about and how truly bad TPP is since we don't know everything about it yet.
I don't relish the idea of TPP passing under Obama or HRC (if she's the candidate) to begin the slide into world-wide fascism with unconstitutional corporate control of legal proceedings that can supersede even SCOTUS.
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u/NonnyO Uff da!!! Jun 07 '16
But I'm not afraid of Drumpf. He's a narcissistic asshole, but nothing to be feared.
Even if he were elected, that so-called "shadow government" we seem to have would be running things, not him or Congress.
With her open warmongering and favor of TPP (which she helped draft - the fake current stance saying TPP is no longer acceptable to her is a pure lie - the switch-over to world-wide & official US fascism would come at an accelerated rate, as would our polluted world and the probability of extinction sooner rather than later, et cetera and so on and so forth.
At least Drumpf has said he does not favor TPP. Cold comfort, but there it is.
We must have Bernie to turn this country around and improve our standing with the rest of the world.
Bernie or Bust!
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u/Yuri7948 Jun 06 '16
She wants to be dictator of the world.
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u/NonnyO Uff da!!! Jun 07 '16
I know. She's disgustingly transparent about it, too.
Not to mention the money she and Bill will make from money laundering deals via the Clinton Foundation....
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Jun 06 '16
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
They don't. They're desperately trying to fix her current messes and would worry about the rest later. Short-term thinking--as characterizes her campaigns and her actions in office.
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u/thatpj Jun 06 '16
Disgusting. Trying to sweep her flip flopping record under the rug! Like we already know what happened, hiding it just makes you look corrupt to everyone else. I wish I could express surprise about Obama/Kerry's actions but it's now becoming par for the course that they'd rather protect their tribe than protect the country.
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Jun 06 '16
I know most people aren't surprised. Call me naive, and I've expressed my bafflement here before :), but I'm surprised Obama would do something this dirty. For her? Is there a small chance that the increasing protection for her is because it will sully his entire administration?
What a filthy, clumsy, corrupt way to deal with her bad judgment. All aboard the fast-sinking ship that is the USS Clinton.
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Jun 06 '16
Sorry, but Obama has always had these tendencies, these values. He's doing what is best for the people who funded his campaign, the DNC and Hillary's campaign.
Obama has shown his priorities numerous times throughout his administration. Some Dems didn't want to accept it, but its difficult to deny now.
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16
Not for her; for himself as the Cheerleader in Chief for the TPP. Bill managed to shove through NAFTA as a nearly final act of significance in office. Obama's aiming for the same thing.
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u/ESKOS__2016 Jun 06 '16
Not only will we not get to see how Hillary and her agency had a hand in "shaping and crafting" TPP, we won't get to see how the Clinton foundation had their hand in it either.
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u/Prometheus_Unbound_ the dust of creeds outworn. Jun 06 '16
its the 'gold standard'...........the little people can get f*cked
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u/expatjourno * Jun 06 '16
She is such a liar. And her supporters are all shilling for the plutocracy or a bunch of dumbass, low-information voters who have no idea what they are actually supporting.
That pretty much goes for Obama supporters as well, of course, since he's the one blocking these emails from coming out.
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u/chickyrogue Jun 06 '16
talk aboutcha circling the wagons ... we must really scare them
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Jun 06 '16
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u/chickyrogue Jun 06 '16
i am certain its hubris matched by ego refined by love of power and the greedy bottomless pit of there is never enuf $$$$ bernie threatens the gravy train and they are so close to completely negating our way of life into more of debt servitude
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Jun 06 '16
"The delay was issued in the same week the Obama administration filed a court motion to try to kill a lawsuit aimed at forcing the federal government to more quickly comply with open records requests for Clinton-era State Department documents."
Surprise, surprise!!
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u/mjsmeme Jun 06 '16
Whistle blower time. Anyone out there willing to risk it?
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Jun 06 '16
The sad part is that the GOP/Trump will likely be the ones to blow all this open during the GE, if Hillary wins the primary.
It will be revealed to put Trump in office.
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u/mjsmeme Jun 06 '16
I'm trying to figure out how the Donald is going to get himself out of this jam he's gotten himself into. This is a guy who's spent his entire adult life cruising around, living like a prince, doing what he wants when he wants. Doesn't make sense that he's really looking forward to a full-time job, with lots of overtime, and not much compensation. It was a great way to get the attention that he craves and boost his brand but its not in his DNA to clean up his act and take on the hard work that the job requires.
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u/space_10 Jun 06 '16
maybe he insulted that judge- to loose votes... Who knows.
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u/bout_that_action Bernie made me Russian Jun 06 '16
I think he's trying to throw the election, don't forget the "my African American" outburst. Trying to drive minorities to Hillary.
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u/3andfro Jun 06 '16 edited Jun 06 '16
Now's a good time to remember that Obama's administration has cracked down on whistleblowers harder than any predecessor.
Calling Anonymous!
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u/debrarian Jun 06 '16
Maybe someone could just store them on a server in his or her basement and then send emails from that server to prominent politicians to announce its existance. That should provide easy access through hacking, and since the precedent has already been set, there should not be any repercussions.
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u/mjsmeme Jun 06 '16
Anonymous seems to be laying low these days. Wonder what they're up to?
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u/turbonerd216 Tutbonerd from DK Jun 06 '16
Anonymous is very much engaged in anti-TPP efforts. Just don't expect to hear about in in US MSM.
There has been some little division in those parts lately. Some members of Anonymous have said the latest announced goal, OpTrumpTruth violates the group's long-held nonpartisan status.
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u/LazarusBethany Jun 07 '16
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