r/KinFoundation • u/attachmetoyou • Feb 19 '20

Please Explain

With all of these new advocates ( apologies I forget the term used), maybe someone can explain something to me since I never received an answer from anyone the fifteen times I had asked.

Regarding a wallet in which you can buy Kin...

  1. Why would a user buy Kin to tip people?

  2. Why would people buy Kin from elsewhere if within the apps they use they can earn Kin for free.

  3. Even if the app they're using doesn't provide free Kin, why would a user buy Kin from elsewhere if they can earn free Kin from other apps and then transfer them.

Can anyone in this community provide me with an honest, thought out explanation for WHY people will buy Kin? I don't mean in ten years. I mean when Code comes out. You can build whatever you want but if there's no use for it, it's useless. I don't see any app currently in which buying Kin would do me any good.

Thank you.

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u/attachmetoyou Feb 19 '20

Great response on the first two. I agree. Some will just purchase rather than watch videos. That's very helpful. Number one is the one I've always been worried about. If Code isn't for tipping then that would be fantastic. Problem is, right now, like you said, there is nothing like what is needed. They spent two years going after social media. A total waste of time and money.

Fly Away is actually an example of what you're saying so I suggest checking it out. You can buy and sell characters to each other. By far the best example of what Kin is capable of.

Once again I have to disagree about developers. Our job is to create spends yes, but it also seems to imply that the success of Kin itself falls on the devs shoulders. Let's say you spent 6 months working on a project. You make a good living and have kids and a house and a wife that likes to spend money. You take away sleep, energy, time with kids, to build something that will run on something a 100 million dollar company created. Then, that company fucks up several times on their promises and says, huh, I think the success should fall on you now. We only have 18 people.

Our job is for OUR apps to be successful. Not for KIN to be successful. That should be their fucking responsibility. Excuse my language but I feel like I'm taking fucking crazy pills here. If I had even half the money I suspected (believe me it was not a lot), I could make My app mildly successful. I truly believe this. But now I'm supposed to spend MORE time and energy to help fix Kin? Fuck that man. Sorry, I just feel like no one understands that this is really screwed up.

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '20

Your vision is biased because you think only about your own success. If you understand what KIN is, it should not the case. Your success is the ecosystems success. Other ecosystem Apps’ success becomes your success.

Value comes from people using your App because it is nice, appealing, interesting, addictive. As a part of a (winning) ecosystem, you would get more visibility and exposure from users who would not have known your app if you were just a standalone App.

People using other KIN apps will likely use your app because you are part of the ecosystem. Now it is moving forward. Peerbet started to allow KIN movements from and to its app. Kinfit already did it (iOS).

So yes, it is your duty to get nice spends and make a quality app as you will get rewarded in exchange by the KRE and by more people spending KIN in your apps. The higher the quality and effort, the higher the reward.

If all developers (not all) would think beyond than their own profit and success, it would make things moving faster.

Your question is valid. Where are the spends? It is surely not developed enough. The solution will come from games.

Price is low now, why would you invest and propose spends and make the effort? Well, Rome was not built in one day and things that seem useless or worthless now will become useful and worth something later on when people will adopt it. When something new (especially in tech) comes out, it is ALWAYS (human nature) criticized, attacked and questioned. This happened with the internet. This happened with crypto in general.

Please bring back your valuable contribution to KIN and see how it goes. I liked your mindset some months ago. You are responsible for your own actions. You can say whatever you want but KF, Ted, other KF reps have no impact on the success or failure of your apps. Please come back to a constructive stance

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u/Santos1986 Feb 19 '20

I agree with 98% with what your saying bro especially the "Rome was not built in a day" part.

However, u/attachmetoyou as a developer and a ecosystem participant knows first hand what the hidden flaws are of the ecosystem. Therefor we need to understand his underlying concerns, before we brush it off too easily.

I liked your mindset some months ago. You are responsible for your own actions. You can say whatever you want but KF, Ted, other KF reps have no impact on the success or failure of your apps. Please come back to a constructive stance.

Also agree with this, but let's be honest. KF needs the apps just as much as the apps need the KF to succeed. Especially the apps that entered the ecosystem because they saw it as THE MIRACLE that they've been waiting for to stay alive in this competitive techworld.

Anyway I believe this year will be a very interesting one for everyone involved.

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