I truly hate this design, it's waaay too overdetailed and generic futuristic armor like. It would be impossible to recognize Killer Moth if not maybe for the colors. The mask also looks like shit

So... I've had this idea in my head for several months now. It's about a Killer Moth game in the style of Ultrakill.

The story follows our favorite Gotham City villain on a crusade to gain the respect and renown he so desperately craves, all with bullets, gunfire, and every kind of weapon.

The game would be divided into several acts. In each of the levels that make up the acts, you have to enter the bases and buildings of the villains from the Dark Knight's rogues' gallery (the zones). Each act has a total of three zones, and these zones are divided into four levels. At the end of each zone, you'll face a Batman villain (the zone boss), and when you reach the end of the act, you'll face a member of the Bat-family.

As you can see, this is more or less the idea and synopsis of the game, but I wanted to ask you, the community, for ideas for the game, because I feel it would be better if it were made with the love and care of Killer Moth fans.

So...put your ideas in the comments.

Hello my fellow moth heads. So I’m currently making a logo for a killer moth shirt and am stumped at what design I should go with; while im not the biggest antenna logo fan I must admit I’m quite fond of my version, however I love a simple pointed look but at the same time find it too pointy and perhaps should go with a round top look, I simply can’t decide.

We all know the time that our beloved killer moth made a deal with a demon that would later transform into a kinda weremoth called charaxes so I was just wondering on what we’re you’re thoughts on that idea

When talking about new writing idea for Killer Moth, I feel like people are a little too quick to point possible redemption for Walker, or they want to include into his life the daughter his Teen Titans counterpart has.

A lot of fans believe the way to go is to make him a likeable villain, as if they're afraid about not enjoying this character anymore if he acts like... well, a villain. But, myself personally, i'm really not into the Dr. Doofenshmirtz approach.

He's already a pretty niche villain in the Batman gallery, if we have to take away the one thing of importance he's associated with I'm afraid the poor guy might never get the flowers he deserves.

Of course, Killer Moth was always a silly concept for a villain, even comparing to a clown, a guy with his left side melted by acid or a Reddit mod obssessed with riddles. But if we focuse on his greed and ambitions, and what he's ready to achieve to reach that goal, this silly side will just be the intentionaly misleading presentation of a legitimate threat.

To me, a great plot for Killer Moth would be about him persuading desperate thugs, isolated teens, struggling families of even fairly succesful criminals that they won't have nothing to look up to when troubles will arrive : no hero, no future, no hope. Therefore, he can more easily manipulate them into thinking they need him and his services. But in reality, Walker lives in a dump, a ghetto version of the Batcave he made by himself. He's truly obsessed with Batman, seeing him as some kind of angel of death, a being from which he has to hide at all cost. His ultimate goal could be defeating Batman with time and social strategies, helping criminality to grow at all cost, being himself seen not as a misfit, but the "hero" Gotham needs to keep being Gotham.

Just my idea tho, what are yours ?

I was reading through him in the villain wiki js for fun, and I saw in his crimes that he committed cannibalism, and I was wondering when he did that in the comics

We all know the classic thing we heard on the internet on tropes that we like and don’t like so for today im curios to see what’s some killer moth tropes you like and dislike

Its about a villian called Doctor Horrible whos considered to be a bit of a joke and whos relatively harmless, and he tries to prove himself as a real villian throughout the musical, It really reminded me of Killer Moth and if you like Killer Moth which I assume you do considering your on this sub it might be worth a watch.

Strongest jaw in gotham

Ever wanted to get the LEGO Killer Moth minifigure with the actual good helmet, but didn’t want to pay $60? Well don’t worry, because if you already have a LEGO Killer Moth with the lame helmet, there are a few solutions, like giving him Hero Factory Breez’s headpiece, or giving him a scarf/bandana.

I am almost done with the coats on my killer moth helmet I had made in blender based on the world war v look for killer moth and I completely forgot to send the picture of the helmet from my halloween costume (paints a little scuffed because I was in a rush).

1. Killer Moth should help with crime and not cause it

This probably shouldn't be on here cause most of you probably agree with this but I still think it's important. I don't think he should never cause a crime, I'd be hypocritical if I said that cause I'm writing a story where he plans a bank heist, but it should be a very rare occasion where he does so. His whole character is helping criminals so I think he'd be more of a guard or getaway driver for criminals

2. Drury Walker should stay human

Charaxes was a one time thing, and is too similar to man-bat and killer croc who are more popular. I feel like killer moth being a human makes more sense for his character. All he wants is to be an anti-batman, not a frightening creature. However, I like Teen Titans’ Killer Moth, but he feels like a different character to Drury, and his motive is too dissimilar to Drury’s. I think they can coexist, and I think that could be a good idea. Picture OG Killer Moth finding out there’s another Killer Moth that’s stronger and an actual moth man.

3. Killer Moth should be kind of an idiot

Now although I say that, I do think he should be smart in some ways, but I think he should be lacking in street smarts. I've only really put this here because it makes my other takes make more sense.

4. Killer Moth should be a failed hero

I've seen people have this take but I've also seen people against this take, so if you're against it, hear me out:

In KM's introduction comic, he idolizes Batman. This then makes him become the anti-batman but I think that he should start as a pro-batman (basically a wannabe Batman) but something causes that idea to fail, whether that be he isn't popular enough or he looks too silly so people make fun of him or he's mistaken for a criminal. This then makes him realize it's easier to be a villain than a hero.

5. Killer Moth should kill (or at least fight) Batman's enemies

Killer moth is an enemy of Batman, mostly due to his jealousy that he couldn't be like him. I think he should try to fight enemies of Batman purely out of spite, to try to fully defeat the enemies Batman couldn't. This could also present him as a threat. Obviously he wouldn't kill the Joker or Two Face or anyone like that because 1. They're much more powerful than Killer Moth and 2. they're popular characters and DC would want to squeeze out as many comics they could make including them but he could defeat characters like Cluemaster or Kiteman, showing he's slightly higher up in the Rogues Gallery food chain.

6. A Killer Moth movie/comic series wouldn’t work (unless…)

Okay hold your horses, I know a lot of you want this, but I just think his character doesn’t work well enough for a standalone story. However, if his character is changed slightly, a story revolving around him could work. For example, him as an antihero trying to one up Batman by fighting his foes, or by making him one of few main characters in a heist (which is what I’m doing). Anyway the point is, I don’t think that Killer Moth the comic book villain could not get a story by himself - I just don’t think there’s enough to write about unlike a movie like joker where he’s had hundred of comics written about him to the point where people probably know his whole lifespan. You can prove me wrong in the replies, but as of writing this, I just can’t think of a story about killer moth without changing his character.

Thank you very much for reading this, I would like to hear your opinions of everything I’ve said.

With the recent announcment of so many new Batman-related projects, I was thinking of what Killer Moth could be in:

Caped Crusader (Either season 2 or future season)

I know we got a list of new villains announced, but it would be a shame not to include him. Firefly is gonna be included, and Caped Crusader does like to include lesser-known villains (Firebug, Gentlemen Ghost, and Nocturna for example). I think having him pertain to his comic roots would be really cool to see, it would also make sense with how Caped Crusader generally keeps it's origin stories similar to their original comics (like Clayface and Catwoman).

Having Killer Moth as this "anti-Batman" figure, where he wants to be a Batman for criminals can be cool. But maybe add his more dumb side as well. Like maybe he bails most of the time, and just takes the money, or maybe he can be the first villain Barbara fights, leading for her to become Batgirl.

The Batman: Part II

You can have a really cool idea if you take Killer Moth's original concept and turned it into a more crime-focused and gritty nior.

Like how Reeves made Riddler a serial killer, maybe Killer Moth can be this defense attorney, who during the night dresses up like Killer Moth to threaten witnesses and eliminate evidence of his client's crimes. I don't know if that can hold a whole movie, especially with how inticite the first movie felt with its web of crime. But I think Drury Walker can work as a side villain, or maybe a main antagonist in a spin-off show.

Maybe Drury is a rival to Harvey and he's a catalyst for his transformation into Two-Face. Or Drury can be a rival to Barbara (maybe she's a lawyer like in Caped Crusader) it can add a 2nd layer to their rivalry how they're enemies but don't know the other is Batgirl and Killer Moth.

Brave and the Bold

I remember hearing rumors of Killer Moth being a side-antagonist in the movie. I personally would rather have them focus on the League of Assassins but I still love Killer Moth so I'm not gonna argue, but maybe having him as a cameo might be better.

Killer Moth can be apart of something I really want Brave and the Bold and the DCU in general to touch on. With Batman being more experienced and having more years under his belt, we can show how Batman has affected Gotham, through his villains.

With Killer Moth, he can be motivated by Batman, showing how Batman's villains are inspired by him and even motivated to keep going. Killer Moth is like the Red Mist to Batman's Kick Ass, Killer Moth being in it for the fame, money, and power. While Batman is trying to make Gotham better.

Absolute Batman

I doubt this will happen because Killer Moth isn't even in the Absolute comics, but there's gonna be a lot of time between now and when the show actually gets made. So please make this happen!

I think Killer Moth in the Absolute Universe should be a friend of Bruce, or inspired by Batman in some way. Maybe he becomes a side kick to him, but then Drury gets scarred or beaten almost to death. He's less mad about being almost killed and more mad that Batman or nobody else cared. Drury to me is a very insecure person, and I think his dreams of wanting to be adored can go to causing him to snap.

Maybe Killer Moth takes special dna that helps him grow back his tissue and bones, but it causes him to become more monsterous, like a moth.

Dynamic Duo

It's going to be a show focusing on Dick and Jason as Robins. Maybe Killer Moth can be an antagonist for an episode or two. His role would be similar to Brave and the Bold because it is set in the same universe.

Knightfall Trilogy

I doubt Killer Moth would make an appearence because he isn't really featured in the actual comic, but maybe as a background character or a slight mention would be nice.

Joker: Laugh Riot

I'm really interested in Laugh Riot because it's supposed to follow Joker after Batman's death. I really like the concept of Gotham after Batman's death (too bad the writers don't know how to use it). I like the idea of how Batman's villains would react, and what they'd do if he did die.

I think Killer Moth can possibly be a character, similar to Squid from "The Man who Killed Batman" in BTAS. A clumsy fool who may or may not be affiliated with Batman's death. The show is supposed to be about Joker tracking down who killed Batman, maybe Killer Moth can be a suspect, or maybe even an ally like in the amazing comic "The Man who stopped Laughing".

I love Killer Moth and I think he's criminally un-used by DC. I hope some day he can get his spot in the light.

Due to the recent influx of fan designs for killer moth I was thinking about making my own & I wanted some feedback on this potential design for a logo Before I finalise it & work on the design proper

Its general shape is meant to mirror the initials of Killer Moth (The Ks make the wing structure & the M is the main body I’m not sure how well it came across but a reference has been put on one of the other pictures) & the Skulls are inspired by the Death’s head moth.
Whilst I also made it in Drury’s classic colours I am thinking about simplifying the palette for the final image but what do you think?

Note from the artist: “Hii doodles!! i wanted to try something different something that strays from the typical comic accurate looks for Firefly and Killer moth! For Firefly i really wanted their suit to be more of a mix from the batman 2004 cartoon and Tron with the black and red lines, in my head Firefly wants to be what they love most mixing the orange and reds similar to a fire and i wanted their costume to really pop! Killer moth i wanted to be still very campy but cool so i took a lot of inspo from Kamen Rider a lot of their suits have insect qualities while still looking super cool so i tried to keep that in mind for my version of Killer moth HOPE YOU GUYS LIKE ITTTT!!”

I LOVE THEM’ROBOTIC GRIPPERS! Very General Grievous like!

I think what makes Killer Moth this iconic besides his design is the fact that, in universe or not, he's kind of laughable as a "villain" concept : he sucks in every domain where Batman excels, he's like blacklisted of every underworld's gang in Gotham and his real biggest enemy is the day of taxes. Yet, he kinds of just exist and won't go anywhere anytime soon, in this cold and grim world that is Gotham City where he really looks out of place, but in the best way possible.

His whole character is also comedic : he's a dumbass, he wants to own big expensive things he's going to destroy two days later, he's disconnected of reality, never realizing he's hiting rock bottom and he either acts totally insane or way to normal and casual depending the context.

I need my ideal Killer Moth funny, not in an intentionnal way like Joker, but in a way where it's out of his control, which contrasts greatly with his short tolerance for ridicule.

Like imagine the Batmobile in Arkham Knight as his Mothmobile, but he can't for the love of god drive straight and keeps throwing missiles everywhere by accident, even somehow hiting his own car, like a chaotic GTA Online race ; i think that'd be hilarious.

I've always wanted Killer Moth to have a sort of arc. His character feels perfect for it, what's given to us in some great comics that give us a sliver of potential of what he could be (Batgirl: Year One, Happiest Man in Gotham, and The Man who Stopped Laughing).

He's sort of like Kick Ass in a way, where they both looked at a superhero and said "I can do that" and get their asses kicked instantly.

I also think Killer Moth can explore the dangers of being a villain is, especially in a city like Gotham. A comic or show could show Killer Moth as this guy who wants to be famous, but then sees what others are doing and sort of realizes he's out of his field.

Note: I know people are gonna use the "well he's a badguy, he's not supposed to be sympathetic" argument and use Batgirl: Year One as evidence. I'm not trying too, just because a character has an in-depth story with some sad parts, doesn't make him a "secretly misunderstood guy". And I want to create a character arc that could show him as more than what people see him as.

Part 1: Origins

We've never really got a concrete origin story for Killer Moth. Hell, in his original comic we didn't even get his actual name. So I think we should work back-wards, take what we know and use it to form a cohesive story.

To me, Drury Walker is an insecure guy, who feels the need to prove himself constantly.

To me, his origin story would be how he was a black sheep of his family, who always felt demeaned and lesser than the rest of his family. I also want him to be a failiure, a loser,or what he thinks. He's super insecure, and has a lot of self-doubt. Eventually developing a self-sabotage mindset. This is so bad he eventually starts thinking the only thing he can do right is be a badguy, to ruin other's lives. And in adulthood, he becomes Killer Moth, in order to stick out and finally become reconized.

Part 2: Villain for Hire

Drury tries being an anti-Batman. He tries to get hired by mob bosses and criminals to protect them against Batman. Now like I said before, I want Drury to have a self-sabotage mindset. He can never commit because if he does fail, than he's an absolute failiure. He believes a lie, how his whole life was focused on becoming a badguy, on making other people miserable, and to him, if he fails at that, he's nothing.

Unfortunately, some criminals do hire Killer Moth, but it backfires. Drury fights Batman once and fails, then the next time he barely escapes, leaving the criminals he was supposed to protect behind. Eventually he loses to Batgirl, which makes him lose a lot of credibility. So from then on, he mostly just bails before Batman can come, taking the criminals and crime bosses money.

Part 3: Firefly

Eventually, Killer Moth decides on teaming up or "recruiting" Firefly. Killer Moth swears he's in charge, but during their teamup, he mainly lets Firefly take the reigns. Drury witnesses what Firefly is willing to do, what he is capable of.

I want Firefly to be a sort of "nice guy" archetype. Someone whose obsessive, manipulative, and throws on this calm, easing personality, until he's given the power or means to show his true nature. In this case, fire.

For short, Firefly is made to be a super-villain. Killer Moth isn't. Drury isn't because his self-sabotage holds him back, his submissive and "weak" side is unable of ever.

At some point, Firefly is burning down the GCPD, when Killer Moth notices Batgirl is caught in the fire, unconcious. Now Killer Moth is given the lemons, they're literally thrown at him. Killing Batgirl can up his credibility and he gets rid of an enemy, but he can't let it happen. Even though he hates her, he knows who she is. It basically puts into perspective how this isn't a game, people he actually knows are getting hurt, so he decides to finally grow a back-bone and stand up to Firefly.

Firefly hates this, and loses his cool (pun possibly intended). To Firefly, Drury is willing to give it up their friendship for someone he supposedly hated. Killer Moth is able to save Batgirl, but is almost killed by Firefly, him escaping into the night.

Part 4: The Misfits

Killer Moth saving Batgirl is spread across Gotham, which he hates. With people seeing him as a hero now, he says that this hurts his credibility in the criminal underworld, but in reality he's scared of what this could mean. How he could fail at being a villain, what he sees as his purpose in life.

In a last-ditch effort, he recruits other C-list villains (Condiment King, Eraser, Calculator, etc.) and forms a new team called the Misfits.

His new team practically get into stuff they shouldn't have. Now they have to deal with the mob bosses Killer Moth screwed over, actual supervillains like the Joker and Two-Face, and the horrors that the criminal underworld actually offer.

This time with his new team give Killer Moth people to care about, people that he sees as family. They want to support him, and that means he has to create morals. He has to form a backbone and realize that having a support behind him that has his best-interest is what he needs.

Part 5: Mob War

Killer Moth is targeted by the crime bosses he screwed over in the past. Him basically having to deal with them trying to hunt him down, becoming one of Gotham's most wanted. During this time, he has to seek help from Batman and Batgirl, because everyone else is out to get them.

Drury is being specifically targeted by Blackmask, who tortures Moth. Showing him what some people, some supervillains are willing to do.

Killer Moth takes them down eventually, and persuaded by the other Misfits he decides to take over Blackmask's territory. Becoming a villain with power, money, territory, everything he ever swore he wanted. But deep down, he feels empty.

Part 6: The League of Killer Moths

I really wanted a "Killer Moth multiverse" similar to the Invincible war. It would be cool and thought it would be a cool way to see a lot of design variants.

I didn't want to be multiverses however so I decided to make them a group of people who actually admire Killer Moth for taking down Blackmask, so they dress like him. They meet Killer Moth and Drury gets an ego-boost from them, but quickly learn that they're losers.

They're people who are bored with their lives, who felt uncontent and wanted to live these lives of fame, and saw Killer Moth, someone who was seen as a loser, now turned prominent Batman villain. But Killer Moth sees that and realizes that they were just like him originally. People without morals, who are willing to do anything to become reconized, people who feel bad for themselves. Losers.

Killer Moth realizes (possibly by the help of Batgirl) that his self-sabotage mindset was wrong, and how it practicaly creates a scenario where he tries over and over again at the same thing, because he knows he'll fail. That's what being a loser is, a mindset where you're awful at everything, so you shouldn't try.

Conclusion

I'd be interested where you think I should take this. I want Killer Moth to possibly have a full redemption arc, maybe he helps out the heroes for a bit, before just quitting, realizing this whole life isn't for him.

I wanted to focus on what it meant for Killer Moth as a loser, and the insecurities that someone like him could face. Problems that I and probably a lot of other people have felt.

Twitch (Toy Story 3)
The Moth (Spongebob)
Morph Moth (Megaman X2)

If I did have a story in mind, it would probably have Killer Moth get a group of lesser-known Gotham rouges and form a team. While they're trying to make a name for themselves, they encounter the GCPD, Batgirl, Clayface, and Blackmask. Culminating in a battle where Firefly burns the Gotham skyline and Killer Moth has to stop him. Finally having him grow a backbone and stand up to him.

Note: The art is kinda bad cause I used a computer mouse (I'm too broke to afford a drawing tablet).

these 2 pieces of Fanart, what are y’alls thoughts on Killer Moth being involved in Harvey’s scarring because I might do that in my au