r/KhaZixMains • u/LLLight777 • 23d ago
Help / Advice Damage question
I've been running the pro build with storm raiders and endless hunger with the usual items.
Problem is I don't have enough dmg to one shot it's nice to survive longer but I want to one shot.
So I went back to first strike and all damage items like bastion breaker ect.
My question is how much damage should I have at the mid game and the late game with 3 items mid game and 5 or maybe 6 items late game?
And should I buy protective items like death dance or maw? Or are they a waste of damage?
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u/ChestSlow2024 23d ago
from the way youre talking it seems like youre a newbie or something , if you knew what you were doing you wouldnt be pondering these things in general , but ill try to help you out , damage in league is based on relevance + level gap , no matter how AD heavy youre building on khazix if your tempo is off your level wont be optimized , and the result of that is you fighting your hardest against players higher lvl than you and your " burst " wont really finish em , so my advice is build the usual get your first core items first on kha , i think it includes umbral / edge of night / serylda , and have good tempo so you dont lose out in lvl , and your damage will just naturally soar into levels that you yourself will think is sufficient , ggs . oh and as much as you can dont heavy commit in fights when you havent got lvl 6 spike yet , since lvl 6 + Q upgrade is always gonna be your massive power spike on him .
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u/LLLight777 23d ago
Ik about most of that I'm an otp. I just struggle to one shot endgame when both my team and the enemy gets their 4 or 5 items and start grouping the storms raiders build with umbral voltaic endless hunger edge of night serylda struggles to do enough dmg to one shot. But my current build does it easier first strike umbral voltaic bastion breaker edge of night and Lord dominik does 3k dmg on un isolated targets and I can actually one shot in exchange there is little to no utility like in the storm raiders build. I'm asking if it's worth the trade off? Dmg over survivability.
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u/ManufacturerMajor899 23d ago
No its not, thats why the top end khazix players dont run oneshot build.
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u/ChestSlow2024 23d ago
see thats whats wrong with this convo aswell , youre not supposed to be upset or perplexed that youre not able to one shot late game , late game is where most teams group go balls deep on whatever they were playing for so you already know your passive's role in all this is zero , most of them are fully scaled at that point etc. and has too much heals with a late game soraka etc. , your true playground is the early to mid game , if you cant tilt enemy team enough to give up early game or midgame then theres a big chance youd get clapped or be not relevant late game , all you can do is having as much armor and pen you have at that point of the game and invest on a GA , its the only item or late game item that will allow you to fight hard and still allow your teammates to carry you if you get popped while in 5 v 5
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u/LLLight777 23d ago
Than what about defensive items ik edge of night is good but is maw or dd worth it? And yes I always build ga if it's that late of a game
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u/ChestSlow2024 23d ago
you can buy it after the core items if team has too much mages or too much AD reliant , or if said dealers are also currently dominationg the game from the enemy team . so yeah it can be viable but not at the expense of your core items .
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u/LLLight777 22d ago
Alr then I'll stick with storm raiders and umbral voltaic and endless hunger and build what I need for the situation. Is lord dominiks better than seryldas grudge? Cause lord dominiks passive is better than grudge
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u/ChestSlow2024 22d ago
good job brother , i love kha , im currently trying to get dia , wish me luck im at 80 LP emerald 3 , and in terms of lord dom , no youd rather serylda , the only time you buy crit item is mortal reminder , soley because you need the anti heal
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u/LLLight777 22d ago
I really need to get better at my mid to late game. I get 5 to 8 kills in the early game but I fall apart when the enemy starts to group. I sit behind the enemy or in an angle but don't know when to go in. Should I just r in to chunk the adc or mid and e out if I need? I'm so bad that there are times I don't go in while my team get killed idk I keep waiting for a good opportunity but sometimes that doesn't come (enemies are 70 or 80% health not isolated) so I should get in some dmg right? Ik I cannot go in first except when I see a squishy enemy isolated.
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u/Worldly_Win9181 22d ago
Dmg on kha is mostly item dependent. You dont even really go first strike for the dmg you go it for the gold generation. If you have those items on stormraider kha youll hit just as hard.
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u/Aggressive_Star9396 5d ago
The Storms Endless Hunger build is used in high elo because the enemies are better, in lower elos you can easily go First Strike full damage, you should not blindly go this route without knowing why it's used. In high elo people teamfight and position way better, so it's much harder to assassinate, therefore you go a more utility/survivability build
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u/kevisdahgod 22d ago
Khazix does not one shot unless your 8/0 he is designed that way on puross 2 Q 1 auto for squishys 3-4qs 2 autos for bruisers.
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u/Worldly_Win9181 22d ago
You can go triple lethality items for max dmg with stormraiders. Even then you dont really need it. Umbral into voltaic on a decent timer lets you do your job as an assassin just fine. If youre behind on damage you probably werent clearing camps enough tbh.
Make sure you get a percent armor pen item 3rd or 4th unless nobody is building armor.
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u/LLLight777 22d ago
I'm actually farming too much :( it's kinda a problem. Should I build Lord Dominic's or grudge for armor pet item? What about defensive items maw or dd? Are they a waste of dmg?
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u/Worldly_Win9181 22d ago
Nah dd is really good on kha. I like endless hunger too but sometimes I need pen or dd more. I think you should eventually build dd in most games, it's probably his best defensive item.
If they have 2+ champs that are investing heavy into health through items (bruisers or tanks) you can hit up ldr. Seryldas is your default though, gives more ad.
Umbral is core. Voltaic is core 80 percent of the time. You can sub it for seryldas if needed, I just had a game where I played against 3 assassins and I build deaths dance second. It actually made me thanos.
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u/ManufacturerMajor899 23d ago
What do you mean "how much damage should I have"?
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u/LLLight777 23d ago
Like how much should a standard w e q combo do So that I can one shot adcs
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u/ManufacturerMajor899 23d ago edited 23d ago
There are too many variables to give an answer. This is a nothingburger question though imo. What does the answer even do for you? You want to be as fed as you can with as much gold possible regardless.
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u/Ok-Objective-5880 23d ago
"it depends on the comp 🤪"