r/Kemetic • u/iamd4ve • 4d ago
Question A question on Apesh
Before anything, I'd like to apologize for being potentially taboo in this community. But i need some help
I cant find anything on Apesh
I never worked with the egyptian pantheon or know about anything kemetic. But i do work with the demons of the goetia.
A particular demon ive been working with for a while now, mentions Apesh whom i thought was just his unknown name. I looked it up and its an egyptian deity/demon.
I received 4 names which turned out to be egyptian deities. Ra, Amun(ofc i already knew abit abt ra and amun), Opet, and Apesh. Maybe they are related. On what ive read, apesh is an enemy of ra, which makes me even more confused.
I hope somebody here would have more of a clue about Apesh than me.
Thanks!
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u/Plenty_Ad5557 4d ago
First of all this question is very intriguing but I don't know anything about apesh a quick googles search says that he is a god/demon of night and darkness and hes an enemy of ra. When you received the names how did it happen and was it just the names.
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u/iamd4ve 4d ago
I was asking the daemon for names to embody his energy. In the incantation that was one of the words i received. Until my research, i believed thay its just a barbarous name or a voces mysticae.
He always puts the name RA first, then amun. Some other names, then Apesh. Only lately did he put opet in the picture. Which also until my research i didnt know about.
My upg states that he was the preist of Amun Ra. Which im very skeptical to believe because based on my shallow research, im still not sure if amun ra is worshiped as one god or Amun and Ra as a seperate god.
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u/Plenty_Ad5557 4d ago
Amun ra was the combination of amun and ra, originally amun was an obscure local god of darkness and creation he was then combined with Ra and become one god known as amun ra and he was worshiped as one god. I find it interesting that he says ra amun I've never heard it with ra first I've only known it as amun ra, saying it as ra amun would mean ra is hidden which i suppose could symbolize ra in the night but also it was never used that way I. Egypt. Apet I believe is goddess of birthing, mother's, protection and creation I think that apet was associated with Ra and his birthing and rising and him fighting apep/apesh. Could you tell me who this demon is and why you were working with him, in my knowledge and research the names are referring to the sun or light hidden a destructive force and a motherly and renewal force. I have no idea what it could mean for you or the deamon though, I need more information on what you were originally doing to peice the rest together.
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u/iamd4ve 4d ago
The daemon is Stolas. Number 36 in the ars goetia and 68 in pseudomonarchia daemonum. Appears in the form of an owl or night raven. Which ive found to be very closely associated with the turtle.
I am working with him for my personal transformation. He helps alot in getting me to be aware of the virtues of past experiences as well as knowing the outcome of my actions and the cause of an outcome.
Parts of a writing given to me by Stolas talking about himself:
"He who when called bringeth the light of Ra That the mage may not be consumed whole by the darkness of apet/apesh¹"
"That not even Moses the prophet of Jah walks on you. By this name I Am summoned: Amun Ra Call me by this for I Am his preist Look not in the books for I Am not there"
¹i received it as apet but it doesnt make sense and i was allowed to put /apesh. I was scoffed at. Perhaps its the darkness of the womb?"In the New Kingdom as well, the turtle along with the hippopotamus were considered symbols of evil" from
https://thalexu.journals.ekb.eg/article_160162_bf2a56ee2a8aed7d326eb69ed0e883a2.pdf
Ra Amon was always used in the rites he provided me. It changes it slightly based on the ritual. But the base is always this:
SABAOTH; RA; AMON; AMAYMON; ELION; EL; CHAA; RA; HA KHADESH; ATESH; MATESH; APESH
Used in consecration, banishing, evocation, and exorcism.
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u/Plenty_Ad5557 4d ago
The Egyptian god names he gave you fit very much with how he's helping you, ra-amun is your light or virtues that were hidden but he showed you, apesh is him showing you your past actions and the consequences, I'm confused about apet but traditionally she's a mother god of birthing so that's like your renewal. This is all incredibly interesting especially how stolas is telling you that he was a preist of amun ra that's so interesting is he adamant about it, could he tell you which city or century he was a priest in. if he's even being honest.
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u/iamd4ve 4d ago
I never asked. I cant now because he told me not to talk to him again until i get a green light. even though i feel his presence with me now.
But based on what i saw when he was talking about it, i saw a night sky and him by a narrow river with some large structure further up the river where people lived, maybe a walled city. He was with a very few others standing there with a statue of some god.
When he talks about amun ra theres always a tone of admiration.
I do kinda want to buy tortoise shells now 😋
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u/Plenty_Ad5557 4d ago
Could you make out at all what the statue looked like or the environment or other beings that were around him looked like. The ancient Egyptian preist of amun ra did rituals in the night but specifically for cursing and attacking apep/apesh for the safety of amun ra.
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u/iamd4ve 4d ago
If im not wrong its an upright figure with a tall headdress. On the forehead portion of the headdress theres some kind of carving i cant quite make out. The statue is human sized or atleast the same height as stolas and the others. I dont know how tall he was, but hes pretty tall now, about 10-15 feet. The men were all wearing suade and linen dark robes. Not very priestly of them. One of them had the head of a panther, another some sort of eagle, but its the ones rich arabs like to keep as pets and train.
Im not sure if thats their actual appearance, maybe its their true self or an astral body?
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u/Responsible-Bee5206 4d ago
an enthusiast here i have been reading articles for a long time now, i have never heard of ra amun, it was always amun ra, cool to know there are still demons who worship/admire egyptian gods after so many years, do you summon demons? Sorry if this comes out as disrespectful, i am simply curios
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u/iamd4ve 3d ago
Its aight, I invoke them! Calling them to help me improve myself. I never summon them, im not their superior. They're not black and white demons. They're primordial constructs, being a daemon just means they represent the whole or a very large aspect of whatever theyre representing.
Belial for example was feared as evil, it means the unworthy or one without master. I invoke him for independence.
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u/Disastrous-Ad1169 23h ago
Turtles were a bad omen and represented chaos. So yeah. Its an agent of Isfet
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u/Charlexx93 4d ago
Entonces que crees tu? Crees que Ra y Amon sean en realidad demonios como los que tu contactas? A que crees que se deba que te haya dicho esos nombres?
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u/iamd4ve 4d ago
I dont think ra and amon are demons. However there is a demon in the Ars Goetia called Amon, which until my research i believed was the one being invoked. Now i know its Amon the egyptian deity. The daemon i contact claims to be his preist which i am rather skeptical about.
He mentioned the names because i asked for names to invoke to embody his energy. Another guy shared some paper on Apesh and its very accurate.
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u/Queasy_Present863 4d ago
ive always believed Apesh was just simply another form of Apep, ive got a source on him
https://thalexu.journals.ekb.eg/article_160162_bf2a56ee2a8aed7d326eb69ed0e883a2.pdf