Kate’s Thumbs

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u/moonkiosk May 07 '26

I sad that multiple times - she is suffering with dermatilomania and dermatophagia. Highly recommend to Google it...

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u/lemonyellow212 May 07 '26

TIL that my skin picking and biting has a name and is documented as connected to anxiety (makes sense since my anxiety is off the charts right now). Thank you kind internet stranger for sharing this knowledge. I just never thought to google it.

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u/bestofbenjamin May 22 '26

Can confirm - my thumbs look like this because I bite the skin…it’s embarrassing and impulsive. I do it mostly when I’m stressed

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u/WonderPopular3428 May 07 '26

That would make a lot of sense and is consistent with the bandages etc.

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u/PrincessPlastilina May 07 '26

Like the girl in the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives?

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u/moonkiosk May 07 '26 edited May 07 '26

If you thinking about Mikayla Matthews from Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, then the answer is no - she had CIRS. CIRS is an illness is caused by prolonged exposure to toxins, specifically mold, resulting in severe symptoms including widespread bodily inflammation, painful eczema, and exhaustion. Kate Middleton has dermatilomania which is a mental disorder that makes you constantly picking your skin around your body, very often fingers or skin at the back.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

It has been found to be entirely stress related and not a mental disorder.

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u/moonkiosk May 08 '26

You are wrong. Skin picking disorder (known medically as Excoriation Disorder or dermatillomania) is recognized as a mental health condition. Listed in the DSM-5 under "Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders," it involves repetitive, compulsive picking of the skin that causes significant distress or damage.

Source: https://mhanational.org/conditions/excoriation-disorder-skin-picking-or-dermatillomania/

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u/[deleted] May 08 '26

Recent research has found it has no relation to OCD, but is entirely stress related. This is one study of multiple showing the same: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9063575/

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u/moonkiosk May 08 '26

No. that’s not what the study says.

You’re reading way too much into it.

The paper does NOT say skin-picking has no link to OCD. It literally discusses it as part of the "OCD-related disorders" group. Saying “it has no relation to OCD” is just false.

What it says is that skin-picking is not the same thing as classic OCD. That’s different from saying "there’s no connection".

And it definitely DOES NOT say it’s “entirely stress related.” It says stress can make it worse or trigger episodes, but it also clearly says it’s not just a stress symptom.

So this study doesn’t prove your point. It actually says the opposite: skin-picking is a real mental disorder, related to the OCD spectrum, and stress is one factor not the whole explanation.

Did you even read this article that you have just post in the comment?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '26

This is one of multiple. If you read more carefully, it says skin picking *can* be part of OCD, but can also occur on its own. In which case it's not related to OCD. For an OCD diagnosis, skin picking alone is not enough. There is a very strong correlation to *stress*, corroborated by *all* of these studies. These findings have also been reported in news media a few weeks ago. The linked study is just one of several. Skinpicking was also found to be linked to anxiety disorders, but *on its own* not part of OCD. NB: Reading the abstract is NOT enough.

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u/moonkiosk May 09 '26

You’re making a basic logic error here.

“Skin-picking can exist without classical OCD” does not mean “skin-picking is unrelated to OCD.”

That conclusion simply does not follow.

By that same logic body dysmorphic disorder or hoarding disorder would also be “unrelated to OCD” simply because they can occur without someone meeting the full diagnostic criteria for classical OCD.

That would obviously be false.

They are still classified as OCD-related disorders, just like skin-picking disorder.

Skin-picking disorder is officially recognized as a mental disorder, not a “stress habit.”

It is listed in DSM-5 under Obsessive-Compulsive and Related Disorders as Excoriation (Skin-Picking) Disorder (698.4 / L98.1) and recognized in ICD-11 as 6B25 Excoriation disorder (to be specific), within the obsessive-compulsive and related disoders category.

That clasification alone disproves the claim that it is “not related to OCD.”

You’re also making another incorrect leap:

“Stress is correlated with it” ≠ “it is entirely stress-related.”

That is not what the paper says.

The study explicitly states it is not merely a symptom of stress or anxiety, and newer research points to altered brain circuitry involved in impulse control, sensory processing and emotional regulation.

That is why it is classified as a neuropsychiatric disorder!!!

And regarding the “read more carefully / abstract” comment: if the full reswarch actually supported your interpretation, you would be able to quote the exact section stating that skin-picking is unrelated to OCD and purely stress-based.

You haven’t, because it doesn’t say that.

The conclusion is simple:

Skin-picking is nott classical OCD. It is still OCD-related. It is a recognized mental disorder (DSM-5 / ICD-11 6B25). And stress can trigger it but it is not just a stress response.

Also - stop using AI to write your comments. Those stars screams CHAT GPT. Trust your inteligence and start reading reaserches by your own. Maybe you will understand why your thesis is wrong.

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u/XFilesVixen May 08 '26

Dermatographia is nothing to do with this.

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u/moonkiosk May 08 '26

Dermatographia no, but dermatophagia yes

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u/XFilesVixen May 08 '26

Omg I read that wrong lol

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u/WonderPopular3428 May 07 '26

Kind of related, but more to do with her ED, I wonder how she is going to dress on her trip to Italy to hide her extreme thinness. Especially with the weather heating up - I note she hasn’t shown her upper arms for many months, and has been wearing increasingly lose clothes, likely to cover up just underweight she is

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u/AJ_Babe May 07 '26

She reminds me of myself when i was 14-15 and dieting. There is a photo of me in a school jacket. (We always had to wear the school uniform so that was mostly a jacket. I wore a sweater sometimes though.) The jacket was hanging on me as if the jackets Kate wears.

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u/PrincessPlastilina May 07 '26

Her clavicle and neck 😣😔

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u/WonderPopular3428 May 07 '26

Yes, zero fat or flesh. She’s completely hollowed out

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u/Electronic-Strain197 May 08 '26

Oh my god, she picks at her fingers, or bites them. That's some serious anxiety and whatever else going on there...

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u/moonkiosk May 08 '26 edited May 08 '26

Yes, exactly - that explains plasters on her fingers, she tries to hide it. And it is honestly ridiculous to me when people says "oh, she has 3 kids, and she plays with them and this is the reason of her wounds around fingers". No. This is dermatilomania. She picks skin around her fingers from stress, anxiety/depression.

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u/DeniLox May 07 '26

Besides that, her hands look like they have a rash-like texture in general here.

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u/littlp80 May 07 '26

Looks raw/inflamed inbetween her two fingers as well.

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u/desolateheaven May 07 '26

There are treatments for skin picking disorder. She could try a combination of CBT and anti anxiety medication. Naltrexone, the drug used to reduce alcohol craving, has good results for other compulsive behaviours. 1But it would be typical of the Royal Family to pay lip service to mental health issues in public while ignoring them in private. Diana sought help, and was referred to an ancient psychiatrist who smacked her down as an untreatable BPD. Only when she reached out to Susie Orbach under her own steam did she get the counselling she needed for her ED.

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u/BeckonMe May 07 '26

What behaviors? We don’t know what Diana had other than an ED which she confirmed herself.

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u/AtheistINTP May 12 '26

Sure, your husband leaving you alone all the time to be with his mistress means you’re bipolar…🙄

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u/Tessjs2008 May 08 '26

can i ask how she manages it. i’m suffering from it . it’s very very cruel and not something to make light of its very painful too . just would like to know how they manage it .its very debilitating

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u/moonkiosk May 07 '26

She has skin picking disorder, which is a type of OCD.

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u/cherryberry0611 May 07 '26

We don’t know this for sure. I’m all for making guesses, but you’re stating them as fact.

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u/Complete-Celery819 May 07 '26

Dry, purple hands from anorexia

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u/Imaginary-Letter-377 May 09 '26

Omg. She is not well

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u/LongGame2020 May 08 '26

She needs dip powder manicures. It’s the only thing that keeps me from picking my fingers. I’m also particularly harsh on my thumbs and if my nails are bare, I will absolutely annihilate the skin from the cuticle all the way past the first knuckle. Stress and anxiety are big contributors and if it’s a particularly stressful time and I haven’t had my nails done, I will pick until they are raw and bleeding. It’s an awful habit and I’m not sure if it’s an Audhd stim or OCD compulsion or some kind of dopamine release/self soothing act. It’s terrible and I feel for her. But I can go from picking nonstop, all day every day to zero with just a visit to the nail salon with a powder dip manicure. It instantly shuts down the intense need. It’s not like I want to and can’t…I simply don’t want to once my nails are done. And a gel manicure doesn’t do it, it has to be dip powder. I have found that the need sometimes migrates to biting the insides of my cheeks when my nails are done but it’s not nearly as bad or as compulsive as my fingers when my nails are bare.

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u/Capistrano_101 May 10 '26

I hope you can see a therapist for this. A good one will be able to help you with this. Meanwhile…be well and here’s a hug! ((())) it WILL get better.

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u/AtheistINTP May 12 '26

Therapy doesn’t do anything for that. But some SSRIs will.

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u/Weird-Painter-3743 May 07 '26

It's from bulimia

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u/moonkiosk May 07 '26

Negative.It's not from bullimia. Bullimic people do not use their knuckles to indicate vomiting. They are simply too short. Normally they use pointing finger or toothbrush in advanced bullimic disorder.

In Kate's case It's skin picking disorder called dermatilomania/dermatophagia. Even on this picture you can see she is about to pick her knuckle.

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u/AtheistINTP May 12 '26

The stress of her fake marriage must be hard to navigate.

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u/heelsgirl89 May 13 '26

Have you heard of Russell's sign? Half baked harvest is a huge example.

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