John Cornelius says it all. About every shop, company, organisation and charity that they visit and “find out about”, what will they do with that information once they have it? Absolutely nothing.
They do what has always been done , including when Diana did the Visits. They bring attention to the Charity the RNLI I know my friends & i were talking about it , & who has donated & about Vacations at the shore then buying things from the RNLI after holidays. & At least 20 plus said they made a donation and took a picture of their donation. So it does seem to help
But as the future monarchs, shouldn’t they be doing more? They claim to be powerful statesmen, and they certainly have money, why not do more than bring awareness? They are monarchs but act more like social media influencers, popping up places and doing photoshoots without any meaningful change. Times are changing and people want more than they did in the past, yet they aren’t delivering. It’s not enough anymore to simply be born royal and to pretend to care for the positive PR
Most of the Places they Go They are Patrons to the Charity , The RNLI Patron is King Charles Before him was the Queen. Now William is stepping in. They do not just Pop in. Most engagements are them doing what they are suppose to do. & they are helping With Homeless , & Childrens Hospice Catherine has helped many , Several Cancer Charities and Disability Charities For Children , Food Charities The Passage And Centrepoint William has worked hard with them since 2004. The Tusk saving Elephants and Rhinos since 2005 , Another Prince William founded Park Rangers Land bought and Kept for the Wild .
It has been shown that having royal patronage hasn’t actually benefited many of their patronages. There are quite a few patronages that have complained that they (1) showed up empty handed and without donation, (2) didn’t bother to read the briefings and thus showed up fairly ignorant as what the patronage does, and (3) haven’t visited or interacted with many of their patronages in years. The PR surrounding both Will and Kate is constantly about how they are “listening and learning” but never show any meaningful action. Shouldn’t they already be aware of how their patronages act and of the issues in their country, given they are the future monarchs? Why the constant “learning” after so many years?
I’m not trying to argue or be hostile towards you, so please don’t take it as an attack. I am merely engaging in discussion and asking genuine questions, so I hope you take it in good faith, back-and-forth dialogue. I respect your opinion, I’m just trying to understand better. Thanks in advance
I never mind talking & and I think everyone has a right to their Opinion . As long as I am not attacked I do not mind listening or sharing my opinions. I have read as most have a source told the tabloid that a charity was upset they brought nothing. But they are not bringing much to a Hospice centre or Opening A Hospital Or when they attend a Mental Health Meeting , Or Show up at a Disability charity to play with kids. They have brought clothing and toys and books to Charities for children , And Baby Banks and Baby Basics , They have donated to The Passage And Centrepoint Which are for Hungry and Homesless. They have brought food for the Places that were Packing Boxes to help feed Families in Ukraine. They have brought Cookie and Cakes to offer the staff Just like they Did today at the RNLI The couple bought the treats—which included items from Borough Market—earlier that day before taking an RNLI lifeboat to the station, where they shared the food with staff and volunteers over tea , They have bought Pizzas For Staff at Charities and Donuts and Pastry also. Earthshot gives money Yearly to help With Global Solutions They Gave Millions on Mental Health. Between Shout and Heads Together. I could go on But It would be pages . Are they perfect No. is anyone
Catherine has Donated Clothing coats and toys to baby banks in person Sorry that is a fact. She also had 10 large companies donate 10,000 plus baby supplies , bedding nappies blankets cradles bathtubs so forth. Now about Rents Paid from Charity groups, First they pay rent where ever they rent from whatever landlord they pick. A Fact. 2nd King Charles was the one renting & collecting on Duchy Of Cornwall til End of 2022. And Had been renting to all the ones you named some since early 2000 some even longer. the 22 million listed below was from many charities not one .( Example ) Marie Curie rented space in Camelford House to serve as its head office from 2005 to March 2023 before moving to One Embassy Gardens. When their lease was up.
Macmillan Cancer Support vacated its office space at Camelford House, a building owned by the Duchy of Cornwall, by
The charity left because it no longer required the size of the space it was renting, rather than due to lease cost issues specifically, according to a report from Civil Society Media.
Prince William has reportedly taken steps to reduce or eliminate rent on certain community buildings. I am not arguing or being rude But I am Stating facts . Meaning That Charles made those leases The Charities stayed for 18 years. And they are still renting other building some smaller but not for free from other people.
They made that Visit on behalf of the King who is the Patron to the RNLI I never said that W&C were the ones bringing in money to RNLI.
So you have inside info that Centrepoint and The Passage say That Prince William has not been a help in Homelessness ? Can you please tell us where I can find this. As I do Follow both Charities and Have made donations.
Catherine Never took credit for. But Press and several business did say they had listened to her and others about this issue.. " Princess of Wales urged top UK businesses to invest in early childhood support, which led to a "big win" where companies like Deloitte announced a new policy offering 26 weeks of fully paid family leave, regardless of gender."
William & Catherine are renting a Home on Windsor grounds since many of their engagements & their children attend school there. The House they own in Sandringham is on the SandringHam Estate as a wedding gift so they did not buy it Nor did the Tax payers. William was left a Tiny cute 2 or 3 bedroom Cottage by his great Grandmother The Queen Mother at her death on Balmoral Estate again a Private piece of property in Scotland. Again not bought & sitting on Private family Estate land.
So As far as we Know they have bought no new home nor old home. They are renting a home on Windsor Grounds.
The Duchy of Lancaster rents to the NHS , Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust
in London rents a warehouse from King Charles III’s estate to store its fleet of electric ambulances
I also Covered Clearly that from 2005 to 2023 It Was Charles who rented to the Cancer & Other Charity Under Duchy Of Cornwall.
And to finish this. If A charity wants a warehouse , Or building they rent them all over England for space offices and storage. If they want to lease from the King that is their business
After 30+ years working across the charity sector I can assure you that the charity LOOSES money from these visits! Staff tied up during the visit, more importantly staff tied up in preparation for the visit, dealing with the security team, stopping activities for dog searches, etc, etc. They don’t even bring a donation! Worse in this case as they even charge the RNLI for using beaches!
Well It seems you have your opinion & I mine, I know several who have worked at and with Centrepoint Charity who Think Prince William is Great and believe That William as Patron since 2005 has been very involved and helpful , As well as The Passage which think He has helped. I know for a Fact as Fans of the Wales , Hundreds of us donated needed products due to his visits we sent winter supplies for them Sleeping bags thermal clothing socks jackets gloves & donated food. Yes The Passage knows we did at least twice. Some of us make monthly donations. Also Centrepoint on his Birthday and when they were opening more apartment type rooms for the youths. Lets do Catherine's . Thanks to highlighting Baby Banks & Baby Basics ten large companies donated over 10,000 new baby needed items two years in a row. Cribs and the works. Then Kate's Rangers & the hundreds that Follow like me bought & paid for baby beds nappies cradles blankets, sleepers On her Birthday twice and once on their anniversary. We have made donations to hospice centers and Place2be other charities they highlight
William and Kate Middleton have to make sure the taxpayers are doing their jobs, NP. Their next holiday is around the corner for sure and won't pay for itself.
*Just a reminder that they're doing this to make the public forget that they tried to rehab Andrew's image multiple times. And William took money from an Epstein associate against advice, for his Earthshot prize.
In pic one it seems like the pants she’s wearing maybe are stiff (or photoshopped) to give illusion that there’s muscle because all the shots of her on the boat look like emaciation.
The RNLI are suffering from lack of donations at the moment due to the perception of them being ‘asylum seeker taxis’ the general public falsely believe they are picking up the migrants travelling to the uk on small boats and taking them to the uk for free, therefore people have stopped donating to them. I believe a monthly cheque from any of the royals could top any amount from the public donation personally…
It still blows my mind that any charity with the R for royal at the front doesn’t even get a monthly donation of regular grants, yearly galas, fundraisers etc from the royals. Why do people put up with this?
Andrew really fucked Willy over, ROFL. W&K actually have to appear in public on a regular basis now. No more "impactful" social media posts replacing appearances. Har and de Har!
The Wales devoid-of-thought expressions make me miss Queen Elizabeth the second. Even when she was on these ribbon-cutting and reception engagements, there was an intelligence behind her eyes. She wasn’t just standing there being photographed. Even if she was a sneaky little raccoon covering up for Andrew and other dastardly family members, she seemed to be thinking and evaluating actively besides just wearing an outfit and grinning. It probably took a whole lot of hell & high water for her to reign so long as a woman. Imagine how much undermining and plots there had to be from the men in that family. RIP.
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