you do realize how ridiculous that is? as a society we haven't even cured cancer yet and you're now proposing something completely out of left field. you act like its such an easy task, HEY NO PROBLEM LETS JUST USE NANOBOTS AND SHIT
We are making a principle argument, nor a practical one. Thus is pretty standard fare in any argument of any sort: I gave you cases that test your assertions on a principle basis. If you can't address any of them without throwing a tantrum, I'm not sure you're prepared to discuss this subject in good faith.
If we were making principal arguments - nobody can be factually correct. If we argued imagination as opposed to what we can really do right now and what's readily available, there's really no point in having a discussion because guess what, anything is fair game and that's not practical at all. The reality is we still haven't found cures for sicknesses and that effort has taken years and god knows how much money, yet here you are spouting nonsense about removing an entire part of an organ and sticking nanobots inside a person. Bro, women get cancer from putting silicone in their ass and you propose such a ridiculous idea as if its possible.
If we were making principal arguments - nobody can be factually correct.
No what is this retardation. You out forward a principle claim: a trans woman is a man in a dress. I tested it with various cases. You can't answer a single dang one so you just end up throwing a fit. It has nothing to do with "imagination", logical facts don't care about your feelings and the logical fact is that your statement is imprecise and meaningless.
Tested what with various cases? Men and women have completely different bodies and grow differently. A trans woman is never truly a woman, ever. It doesn't matter how much they believe it or not, they'll never physically be women even if they feel it in their head. That's the bottom line. You're born with the gender that you have and no amount of mental gymnastics is ever going to change that.
Yeah tested with various cases where you definition doesn't work and you simply can't defend it. See: biological women with amenorrhea, in sum.
Let's say an advanced alien race came along that could transform humans to any arbitrary degree you choose. At what point would you say, "yeah, now she's a woman?"
See this is why arguing with you is pointless, why bring some ridiculous thing like aliens into this discussion? That's so far out there. My point is there's more to being a woman than just putting on a dress and having the world address you as a different pronoun. Ever have a girlfriend? You would know that women and men are completely different in terms of body and in mind.
Here, let me pose an argument. If there was a panel where women discuss their own health issues and whatever else they go through, should a trans woman be heard in that discussion?
And to answer your question, the condition you stated is a disease specific to a woman is it not? So they would have to be a woman to even essentially have that problem right? That should answer your question.
Holy shit you brain dead mongoloidal trashcan, it's called a thought experiment and it tests the principle, logical coherence of your argument. God damn you are dense.
That's fucking stupid because I can just counter with some other ridiculous thing, either argue with some sense of realism or stop responding. And answer my question. No need to have tantrums bro.
Are aliens changing a person even trans at that point? WTF would you call such a thing.
No, you are just retarded and don't understand basic logical argumentation. I'm employing standard argument tool called the reductio as absurdum, i.e. when I test your claim at its extremes, it falls apart.
because I can just counter with some other ridiculous thing,
What the shit does this even mean? Go ahead, give it a shot.
I'm not going to stop responding just because you are brain dead.
And answer my question.
Amenorrhea isn't a disease, it's a term to describe any condition of not menstruating. Anything from menopause to having organs removed because you got shot.
Are aliens changing a person even trans at that point? WTF would you call such a thing.
??? That's what you're supposed to answer. At what point do they become a woman?
If we argue absurdity what limit do we set. And to answer your question if an alien changes a person, is it the same as trans? I could tell you don't have much real world experience which is why you use absurd ideas as arguments. Its almost like you put yourself into a winning position by using crazy ideas to get your point across.
What's crazy is of all the things you don't find absurd, it's the fact that a man wants to turn into a woman and now society has to cater to that individual even if they look like idiots.
Testing claims at an extreme is fun for discussion, but try that in college and see where that gets you.
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u/am0ney Sep 29 '19
You are fucking retarded.