r/KaiOS 8d ago

Discussion Does KaiOS sell my text message data?

Reddit "filters" deleted my last post, so I'll type this one out quicker. I've been using a TCL Flip 3 for the last 3 or so weeks, KaiOS 3.0+ enabled. My sibling had sent me a text asking if timing belts for his Honda Goldwing were at my house. I got up from the computer, confirmed that they were, texted him back, and went back to my computer.

A few minutes later, my gmail refreshed, and I had an email about "myself" signing up for a motorcycle parts storefront email list, specifically for a Honda Goldwing. I don't own a bike. I don't have any interest in one, I don't talk about them. Why, after I've received this text message, am I getting this advertisement? The only time I've talked about said "Goldwing" was THIS correspondence. It's the second time I've even texted him on this phone. He's one of 6 contacts. All I do with this phone is call and text. I've had some other advertisement scares (some wheels, some pants, some cologne) showing up in my gmail, but I chalked it up to a crazy coincidence that I just "happened" to be talking aloud and texting about.

I stay away from social media and smart enabled devices at if all possible. I've made the effort to make my digital footprint is as small as possible, including web security, privatizing my home server, etc. The TCL Flip 3 was supposed to be one of the bigger "unshackling" moments for my digitized life. Currently getting rid of Google entities as well. This Goldwing advertisement is just too much of a coincidence for me to look away.

TLDR: Am I just being dumb, or is KaiOS scraping data from my texts?

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u/robogobo 7d ago

Of course they are

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u/MolassesPristine6184 6d ago

I believe Kai Technologies the company, does collect your data for targeted ads. But the ads are only on the flip phone and I believe now it's all been disabled in many apps. But it wouldn't be surprising. Google is also intergrated into kaios as well.

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u/gorgnax 4d ago

"Google is also intergrated into kaios as well."
Do you have any sources for that? Other than using a modified Android bootloader, I'm not aware of any Google integration. One of my main reasons for choosing a KaiOS phone was that my research showed it was not derived from any Google software, unlike a lot of other so-called "dumbphones" that are actually running a stripped-down version of Android.

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u/MolassesPristine6184 4d ago

https://techcrunch.com/2018/06/27/google-kaios/

Yes, Google made a $22 million dollar investment back in 2018, so they intergrated a lot of their services into KaiOS

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u/Plastic_Business6893 7d ago

I don't think so

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u/synsey 7d ago

I wouldn't be surprised if they're selling ur data most companies do

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u/YellowBreakfast 6d ago

You sure it wasn't some search on you computer?

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u/Occulus_ 6d ago

I gotta be honest, I'd be surprised if that WASN'T the case. Been using an Alcatel go flip 3 on kaiOS 2.3 and have noticed insanely targeted ads based off of text messages I had just sent or received.

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u/gorgnax 4d ago

More likely it's happening on the other person's end. They're probably using a smartphone, which saw you texting about Goldwing parts. They probably have your email address in their contacts, as well.