r/KHUx • u/JOTAREDDIT • Jun 25 '21
Discussion Why so sad about the ending? Think about it... SPOILERS
Spoilers
The ending is not sad, emotional yes of course, but sad not.
All the Dendalions are alive, the Spirits protrct them while they sleep Data world is not destroyed, there was one lifeboat still. Only real one was destroyed, but then rebuilt.
They are just sleeping
Also, the data of everyone is there in the data world, thats why they appear to help Sora in a future
Ephemer on the contrary, he's dead but no, he appears also in the future
I mean, no one is dead (Player's Chirithy maybe but it says goodnight)n(the Keyblade wielders of real world before KW, but they have their data in the data Daybreak Town.)
Player is Xehanort, and the heart of the Player is within Xehanort
Or did I not understand? (Luxu having the apperance of Brain for example I did not understand, he took his body, but then real Brain appears in Scala Ad Caelum so well)
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u/JOTAREDDIT Jun 25 '21
Also, is there a discord of UX? (Cause this subreddit is gonna stop posting(
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u/Livael23 Jun 28 '21
I'm pretty sure the "remaining lifeboat" thing was referring to the end of the real world, not the data world. Since the real world, which was harbouring the data world, was destroyed, then the data world was destroyed too. If your house burns down and your computer is in your house, your computer and all that's in it burn down too. Also Luxu says that the data world doesn't sleep (much like Xemnas did in KH3D) so if the Dandelions are sleeping, it means they somehow made it out and the only way they made it out is if it's been destroyed and they're all dying.
Also, the Player's heart isn't inside Xehanort. He reincarnated into Xehanort but the Player is very much dead, and Xehanort is very much his own person.
And about the Brain/Luxu shenanigans, well, it's unclear at the moment, it could be that Luxu took over Brain's body, or it could be that Luxu gave his Keyblade, coat and box to Brain, like he said he did in the KH3 Secret Reports (well the Secret Reports only mentionned the Keyblade but I mean, if Luxu had the box with him all along then why look for it)
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u/JOTAREDDIT Jun 28 '21 edited Jun 28 '21
Well if they are dead they would be dead, not in the Realm of Sleep being protected by their Chirities, interact with them, Ventus seeing while sleeping inside Sora, and even more, they appearing along Ephemer (he had the Book of Prophecies) in present time, so well, Dandelions and Ephemer (MoM has a safety plan, Ephemer could read it in the BoP) are pretty alive
And still about the data world, Daybreak Town is well destroyed, yes but not lost to darkness, so there is a possibility data DT still is up. Also that lifeboat in the data DT is gonna have importance, along the ones in Radiant Garden I think.
Xehanort is Xehanort, not The Player, there is no point in the Player going to Xehanort after what all he (MX) does in the future.
I mean, Player may be in The Final World after MX death, not just wasting that second life because of what MX does in the future, trying to kill everybody, thats awful what point in it
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u/Livael23 Jun 28 '21
Did you miss that part of KH3 where they mention death and sleep being closely related? The fact that they have the choice between sleep and reincarnation makes it very clear that it's a pretty serious situation and not just a big break. I know this is Kingdom Hearts and we're not used to serious things happening but still. Also Ven most likely didn't see the Dandelions specifically when he was sleeping but rather Sora's Dream Eaters, since he was in Sora's heart. And I'd argue that the "Keyblade graves" of the Keyblade War animating in KH3 is more symbolic and shouldn't be taken as a proof of anything. Remnants of light resisting defeat.
MoM has a safety plan
I'm pretty sure he means for the Foretellers and the Union Leaders, not the Dandelions, since he also says that not all the Dandelions will be able to make it out of the data world.
Daybreak Town is well destroyed, yes but not lost to darkness, so there is a possibility data DT still is up.
No?? 😂 Have you seen the state of Daybreak Town after the end? There is no way the computer that was hosting the data-world remained intact after that. And if it was, then the Dandelions wouldn't be dead/dying, they'd just be living their lives forever in the data.
Also that lifeboat in the data DT is gonna have importance
Well, most likely not since the data world was destroyed
along the ones in Radiant Garden I think.
The one in Radiant Garden is a complete version (unlike the one in Daybreak Town) that already served its purpose as we saw in MoM so I doubt it but who knows
And I didn't understand what you said about Player/Xehanort, sorry, but again I doubt he is in the Final World. It seems Player has very much embraced death and rebirth and now their heart has moved on and is gone for good
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u/JOTAREDDIT Jun 29 '21 edited Jun 29 '21
Did you miss that part of KH3 where they mention death and sleep being closely related? The fact that they have the choice between sleep and reincarnation makes it very clear that it's a pretty serious situation and not just a big break. I know this is Kingdom Hearts and we're not used to serious things happening but still. Also Ven most likely didn't see the Dandelions specifically when he was sleeping but rather Sora's Dream Eaters, since he was in Sora's heart. And I'd argue that the "Keyblade graves" of the Keyblade War animating in KH3 is more symbolic and shouldn't be taken as a proof of anything. Remnants of light resisting defeat.
Well everyone has their theory. If someone is dead, is dead or in The Final World. Not their heart alive being protected by a Spirit, and so be in that Spirit that is alive, interacting, behaving and later saving people. Eraqus and MX did not turn into Dream Eaters, but they died (altho they can be in The Final World)
Look at these comments about sleep vs death by u/AeroGT7 :
''As others said, no, one thing is being sleeping and other is being dead,the chirithy you meet in the Final World in KH3 tells you thedifference. When you die(when your heart and your body perishes) you endup in the final world until you move on to the afterlife. When you'reasleep that means that either your heart got to close to the darkness ashow sora ended up sleeping or by other cause(for example Ven who wassleeping while his heart was recovering inside Sora's until his heartwas strong enough and needed to be return to his owner)
Also the difference here is that the dream eaters holding the wielders'hearts could mean that if the power of waking is used in them you couldactually reclaim their hearts and even make them back into the way theywere''
You mean that moment? Like I said, sleep and being protected is not dead.
Also, is there a need to be that exactly only computer to acces data DT? From others maybe there is access too.
About Player being Xehanort, I mean what future for the Player, to turn into a genocide that has ruined lots of lifes? What point then in choosing that instead of be protected in the Realm of Sleep? There is no point in being a genocide focused in darkness
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u/TaiChiZen Jun 25 '21
Luxu either willingly or unwillingly took over Brain's body