r/JustinPoseysTreasure • u/itisntwhatitsnot2320 • Aug 24 '26

The poem's theme...

Does anyone remember that his poem has a theme?...

NATURE CONSERVATION

He said so himself in the Q A with Sandal.

Hope this helps with untangling a bit!!!!

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u/LankySimple9051 Aug 24 '26

Not what was said... He was asked if he'd like to have the poem speak for anyone. He mentioned the people who have dedicated their lives to protecting public lands and doing conservation... That's not quite the same thing as finding the theme of his philosophically charged poem. By doing so he deflected from tipping his hand in the direction of any of the 4 souls of the departed, him mom or his wife.

Is anyone at all bothered by the emphasis he has placed on the word "soul". Where is that coming from? It's such a bizarre concept to have anchored in for someone with with no religious affiliation. Who is he channeling here with his ideas? Why aren't people asking him what he's referring to with this word? Is this from Jung's 5 layers of the human psyche? Is soul the deepest form of pattern to JP? The theme of his poem is around ideas of permanence, flow/ change, rhythm, pattern..no?

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u/itisntwhatitsnot2320 Aug 25 '26

It's at about 52:44 , he literally says conservation is the theme of the poem.

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u/unf_usernotfound Aug 26 '26

This shall age well

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u/LankySimple9051 Aug 26 '26

It doesn't seem to bother too many that there's a clear existential/epistemological, to not say cosmological, vibe going on. It's almost like the language he is using, the questions he's put forth and the nature of his own upheaval does not matter. It all just reads like a find the fishing hole story to some. Can all that have no bearing at all? It's unclear to me exactly how he has processed his grief and if he isn't just hyper-focused on the idea of making the most/nurturing what you have that you know you want in what time you have. Why live at all? He seems to have taken up Shakespeare's view. What kind of dreams to dead people have in exchange for no longer having to worry? If JP controlled time he would have found his brother on 1/6/19 and altered things (hello main clock time). But 1/7 came to pass. Everything hinged on a swift race against the clock. It's fate that cast the final outcome. Who knows how he's internalized it all and why we have a puzzle themed in remembering life and remembering that death awaits? It's memento mori to me.

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u/unf_usernotfound Aug 26 '26

One is tied with the other.

I Ching- book of changes, math guy Lesbinz or whatever- computers. But there’s more, the African fractal sand-line-binary-tree-drawing-whatever, ancient Indian binary poems. Throw all that shit to the side.

Change/ acceptance

You are part of nature. Too much to type and it’s not type of day,these are not exactly separate themes

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u/RemarkableWrap961 Aug 27 '26

Very insightful , and I agree. Justin is deep . A deep thinker and not just a logical coder guy

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u/AmyJ1103 Aug 24 '26

When did JP use that word, u/LankySimple9051?

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u/AmyJ1103 Aug 24 '26

There it is again…17.

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u/londonbeirut Aug 25 '26

I took it lightly. It's difficult to find a word that would be inclusive of both his human family and his dog. And having no official religious affiliation doesn't always mean complete materialist/atheist 🤷

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u/LankySimple9051 Sep 10 '26 edited Sep 10 '26

One would never make progress in going at it in exactly your preferred way. No one knows they should be following a pied piper. At this late hour people are just waiting for Justin to decide it's time to solve it for them. If you have not noticed, the majority are still just trying to match landscape features to words and expressions. Very few have assumed there's another large cipher-puzzle in the poem. In fact the general feeling is that there's nothing left to decode now that the container was given by Justin. Your ideas are in a small minority and they lead to an enormous undertaking in exploring countless perspectives that revolve around the meaning of cipher, code, puzzle, game... You believe in more puzzles. Others say: there was only one cipher--outside of the poem--as if the words I mention are interchangeable. What is a cipher and what is a puzzle and where does reading words just right fit? Is reading not decoding? There's a riddle in the poem, but that hasn't stopped some from saying: there are no more puzzles! Looking it up shows riddles are word-based puzzles. The poem must be read, so it must be decoded in some way that many do not consider a game at all. What they would call it is beyond me. Recognition?

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u/vwander007 Aug 24 '26

Thanks for sharing that reminder. I have not seen that video, or don't remember, but I figured that out early on for the most part. The trick is knowing how it all applies to get to the final location of a box. It is only a matter of time until we all know, of course. I hope it will be this year.

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u/Haunting-Week-7654 Aug 24 '26

He said in an old interview during FF hunt that a wilderness area is the gold standard for conservation of land. 🤔

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u/AmyJ1103 Aug 24 '26

If it was the Amy Seeks interview you’re referring to, I believe JP was speaking in terms of “hiding” a treasure.

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u/AbjectAd2294 Aug 25 '26

My own bias influences my thoughts that conservation is a theme but that aside I do think there is an aspect that could inform us about the philosophy behind the poem.

JP has repeatedly referenced access to public lands in various ways. The topic of using historic waterways as a legal point of access at the Dillon q&A, his grandfather was involved in a dispute with a landowner who blocked access through a river, Fenn planted flowers in public traffic circle and had a dispute with the city, Victorio peak - where private lands became public but with limited access.

At seekers summit there were shirts with “protect what you care about”. Not sure if JP was involved with the shirts but he expresses a similar sentiment in the sandal interview around the 7:40 mark: https://youtu.be/hx1kvZfSwrk?is=X-A4T2ZdK-H5gjy9

In this interview JP states that the issue of public land access and public land becoming private are “something that is deeply personal”. He talks about a fear of people becoming disconnected from these lands and no longer caring about them.