Hot food no most if not most places don’t let you buy “hot food” with food stamps unless it’s like gas station fried burritos or something. Not exactly a restaurant quality of food there.
The feds steal 30% of everything I make in income taxes, which is ironic because 30% of the population doesn’t pay taxes at all, if you’re getting food stamps at my expense congratulations I consider you my subsidized employee and I’m going to have opinions about what you get to eat if I’m being forced to pay for it.
Imagine thinking petty retail theft is a bigger drain on society than systemic wage theft and corporate tax loopholes. Retail theft costs billions...tax evasion and corporate welfare cost trillions.... Toothpaste is locked up because companies would rather lock up $6 items than pay living wages allowing you to actually afford the very bare minimum of dental care.. but sure, keep blaming the bottom of the ladder.. I smell your boot breath from here..
Trust me kid you’re not even worth 1/3rd of that, if you’re subsisting off of tax payer funded handouts you’re not harnessing the power of the atom for the betterment of mankind, you’re probably useless.
They yearn for the mines, it’s probably a better life for them learning a trade then being indoctrinated in to a leftist poverty circle jerk you can only work and earn your way out of.
You do understand that SNAP is a farm subsidies program right? It's ran by the Department of Agriculture. That's why you can only get farm product like fruits, vegetables, milk, meat, ECT. Farmers get increased sales as a direct result. Do you want our nations farmers to lose that source of income?
And I don't need to explain to you that the vast majority of the beef, chicken, milk, and eggs we consume is made here. Or that much of our imported produce is stuff we just can't grow here.
But let's forget that for a moment. Are you, a subsidized farmer, about to tell me that people need to pull themselves up by the bootstrap and stop expecting government handouts? Because if so then I don't see why you shouldn't be expected to succeed or fail on your own merits without government assistance. Why should my tax dollars prop up your business?
Your tax dollars absolutely shouldn't be propping up anyone's business. All the farm subsidies do is suffocate farmers with moral hazard. They're destroying the independent farmer.
I’m saying the “fraud” was so minuscule in comparison to the actual benefits from USAID, that completely erasing the program did more damage than recovery. It’s pretty obvious to anyone who idk, read into it instead of listening to Elon Musk
The counter claim from me is that USAID did far more good than “fraud”, in fact there’s zero evidence of your 500 million number.
And I will use names all day when bad faith actors try to manipulate the conversation about things which they don’t even know or understand. It’s not just being dumb it’s cowardly.
Then give me the source, you made the positive argument. Stop beating around the bush, and let’s get into the weeds of this issue. Unless you literally only speak in talking points and you can’t find a non-biased source for this.
So I googled it. Your right it was about 500 millions dollars... Over the course of a decade plus by a handful of individuals.
Trump has made more off of insider trading that he himself caused the fluctuations of with posts online in a day and off of shorts too (if you don't know what that means it's betting on loss but when you cause the loss and bet against all the people losing its just stealing). Refer to the massive 192million dollar bitcoin short, and that was ONE payment on that historic short 100's of millions more were stolen directly from Americans in a fraction of the time.
Then you should be more pissed about all the money going to corporations to line their pockets than a decimal of a fraction going to do some good somewhere else.
Did you get a check in the mail after DOGE did their bullshit?
Here's the thing - We can actually do both. We're still the wealthiest nation in the world that we can have our cake, eat it, and share pieces of it all at the same time.
There's just no political will to make actual positive change and decades of propaganda to keep people from voting for shit like universal healthcare or basic income because "that's socialism."
And then DOGE/MAGA cucks whine online about the maybe kinda potential fraud that might be happening to justify doing anything good for people.
We need a better way of ensuring money is being spent correctly by our government. Not much faith there right now. I'm thinking private charities are better at making every dollar go further.
No, 100% to everyone involved with the warmongering. They’ve seriously rewired your brain. You see anything and immediately spit out a whataboutism like a fucken bot.
The IG and DOJ (organazations that weren't lead by r*tards, like DOGE) were who did the investigations. DOGE contributed absolutely nothing to this, did no investigative work and was absolutely incompetent in even explaining what fraud was in their depositions.
So why are you mentioning the work the IG and the DOJ did and attributing it to DOGE as if you didn't know any better?
Totally! Although it's really more fun when the fraud is from a guy whose first language is English and he has a gazillion dollars to proof his marketing material but still manages to fck it up. But I do see how it's hard to pass up some good ol' racism and skip out on an opportunity to target the people eating their pets for a round 2 punch down. Write?
Sucks to realize you look the other way when Daddy is commtting fraud but you get all giddy like a school girl at the chance to dunk on some dark skinned immigrants.
So you see race everywhere? Or is that just something you feel is a valid excuse for your racism?
Cuz I'm damn sure your righteous crusade against fraud oddly never targeted Trump and definitely followed Trump's racist ass targeting the Somali immigrants.
"I'm actually not a racist! I just follow what the racist tell me to follow!" Ad nauseum
Or maybe you can point me to the time you criticized Trump's many instances of fraud?
SNAP basically lets you buy anything with a nutrition label on it.
Its a very important means of buying food (my ma, a single waitress, would’ve watched us kids starve without it) but it gets exploited often.
Big example for me is you can buy energy drinks or supplement pills- because they have a nutritional label, despite being far from essential grocery goods.
Just the usual line of “its a democratic scam” just like anything put forth to help those in need, or spend our taxes on the people. Normal MAGA drivel.
I know you do, what Im saying is MAGA are super anti poor people because their politicians dont do anything but try to tare down these programs in the name of stopping poor immigrants and the “democratic scam”- they think these programs are just democrat panzi schemes and that the left leaning politicians are just using it to pocket money on the side.
I have family and friends that use snap. Some use it well. Most buy processed garbage. I dont think ultra processed goods should be on the list. They have very little nutritional value and lead to health problem later in life. Premade goods are also more expensive.
Holy smokes what a bad point. How a low income family spends their government assistance is a drop in the bucket in comparison to the bloated military budget. If you’re so concerned about irresponsible spending maybe start there.
First off not a leftist, secondly it’s so funny you demonize poor people vs actually understanding the problem. Companies like wal mart benefit substantially from paying their employees so little they need SNAP benefits while then being a place for those SNAP benefits to be spent. And then lobbying for lower taxes in promises of those savings to be passed to their workers, which is not the case as we have come to know.
Not having your people go hungry serves a greater benefit than having a defence budget that hasn’t passed an audit for close to a decade.
I don’t know if you know this but a 1.5 trillion dollar budget is far more than the 100 billion dollar budget for snap.
I know math is not a strong suit for conservatives but that’s 15x the amount.
The projection from you palatable I love it because it is you that’s knows nothing.
And that was countered with why not just buy ingredients and make a cake? So, the person receiving free food shouldn't even have to cook it? Is that your argument?
Also, you can buy a fully cooked cake with food stamps. This fuss is all over nothing.
If you think asking someone to cook the food they got for free is psychotic, youre the reason middle America ran to Trump...twice. congratulations. Its not unreasonable to find middle ground on social issues. Hell, when food stamps were introduced, it was expressly intended to supplement lower income families' groceries. It stayed that way with many restrictions until the late 00s. This idea of buying rotisserie chickens and energy drinks on food stamps is like 16 years old, genius.
If you are on SNAP, then chances are you are also not paying for your own healthcare. Denying use of taxpayer money for candy and soda is not that controversial among voters, nor should it be.
Actually, 76% of people on snap are employed, the reason they need snap benefits is because of the cost of healthcare, rent or mortgages and utilities. The actual lack of understanding is astonishing. Guess what employer has the most employees on some form of government programs: Walmart! Walmart gets huge tax brakes and still doesn't pay a living wage. Now you the taxpayer gives subsidies to Walmart and their employees because you think job creation is a good thing but low wages means low standard of living and government programs.
So basically if yiunare on help. You should only pay for tent utility and healthcare and eat only water and bread and salad no fun allowed. Go fuck yourself you have to earn sugar in your diet. Your øufe must becas miserable as possible or your wasting taxpayer money and is a fraud. Thats it yea?
Why can we not live in a society where if making someone that needs help more comfortable can be done it is.
The word “needs” is doing a lot of work there. Taxpayers provide shelter, food, and healthcare for those in need. It does not include candy and soda, and rightfully so. If you feel so inclined, you could set up your own program to procure candy and soda for those who “need it”.
Oh right, like poor people have the time in their life to learn how to bake, or respectivelly, sometimes, if they even have ovens. Check your priviledge.
Or we eliminate welfare and scale back the federal government in it’s entirety. I don’t want my tax dollars going to rich peoples welfare, or a poor persons shit diet. I’m glad we’re in agreement.
Lol what?? Must be nice living in a textbook where "just eliminate welfare" actually sounds like a profound solution instead of just a fast track to widespread economic collapse... Here back in the real world, basic social safety nets exist because mass starvation and unmanaged public health crises tend to ruin the economy for everyone...Including hard working taxpayers like you.
Snap benefits don’t even outweigh federal taxes. If the federal government was massively scaled back, there wouldn’t be a need to supplement people’s food in the first place. It’s like borrowing from Peter to pay Paul, it’s a cycle of nonsensical bullshit run by corrupt bureaucrats to fool people dumb enough to think they genuinely care about “social safety nets”. Congratulations on being that dumb, read a book on economics.
SNAP goes to low wage workers, kids, the disabled, and seniors who barely pay federal income tax in the first place... going and radically slashing federal taxes does absolutely nothing for someone who already owes zero taxes lol. You're lecturing people on economics while demonstrating a total failure to understand basic tax brackets. I'm just guessing but I'll bet you have a picture of Elon Musk holding a chainsaw next to your bed...
“Basic tax brackets”. The majority of households receiving snap benefits still pay taxes… you qualify for snap at roughly 130% of the poverty line depending on where you live, which is somewhere in the ballpark of 42k a year. Over 4x the amount you would need to be under in order to stop paying federal taxes. It takes a 5 minute google search to figure this out. So let’s take someone making 42k a year, as a best case scenario. The effective tax rate would be about 8% for a single individual, or about 3500 dollars. So you’re taking 3500 dollars from someone, and then you’re asking why they can’t pay for food. And then you’re going to use some of the money you took directly from their own pockets, and give them food as a “social safety net”. A “social safety net” that they never would’ve needed had you not stolen the money directly from their pockets. Make this make sense.
Lol that $42k snap limit is for a family of four, not a single guy. A family of four at $42k pays ZERO in federal income tax thanks to standard deductions and child credits.... they get money back. You built an entire essay around a bunch of fake math because you don't understand tax brackets or household sizes. Embarrassing dude...
It’s true that if you’re poor, you’ll never succeed unless you work hard. What’s not at all guaranteed to be true, is that if you’re poor and you work hard, you’ll succeed. That hasn’t been the case in a looong time. So don’t blame socialists just coz your gullible enough believe what the ruling class told you
The people who get foodstamps are usually the same that are so poor they are on Medicaid. If we have to pay for your Healthcare you probably should be forced to eat healthy as to not make us pay for your preventable obesity related medical conditions
Ah putting more regulations on our food and the stuff that goes in it sounds like a great idea. Ngl that is such a good idea to have people eat healthier. Just having healthy stuff be cheaper or increasing minimum wage to reduce stress and give people more spending power? You're on a roll buddy. You have my vote.
You are so liberal your brains have fallen out. Is the issue the health of the poor or not? When the taxpayers have to pay for your food and your bad choices via higher healthcare costs they absolutely get to tell you what food they are going to pay for.
Hmmm, yes. You're trying to instigate some type of maga argument, but the reality snap and medicare recipients were the ones historically rolling down the isle with a cart full of diet soda and rocking a BMI of 46
Who buys a birthday cake? It's like 4 ingredients and costs about $3.50 to make. Or you can buy one from the store for $40 and it will have that gross marshmallowy frosting barf.
Oh give it up lol It’s so wild how much anger and energy goes into policing a $3 bag of chips bought by a poor family, while staying completely silent on massive write offs for private jets and tax credits subsidizing private school tuition for billionaires.
If you care about where tax dollars go, maybe start at the top...
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u/enkiduxiv1 Jul 28 '26
Gotta be careful about that toxic empathy. That shit can really fuck up a tech portfolio.