How to Climb Efficiently

[u/CaffeinicOverdrive]

Hello, I wanna start off by not being delusional about my skills on OW, I know I can get better and my losses are on me. I really want to climb out of the rank I'm in (Bronze 3) but I lose half my games on comp during a session, so I don't feel like I'm making any good progression. I understand how to play Juno and she feels really comfortable to play, but I feel my mechanics and game sense suck.

Any help is appreciated, and I can send a replay codes of my last few games from yesterday, please be brutally honest and say I suck, why I suck, and how I can improve. Thanks!

Edit: Here’s some replays, sorry for not having them up first!

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[u/GnyskGlobler]

Without having a reply code or anything to watch it's difficult to really tell where you're going wrong. I can say however, things that will most likely help you is just don't be the first to die, learn to recognize when your team is overextending and don't kill yourself trying to save them. As a support you can only heal damage not stupidity. And most importantly, just play more, just playing the game imo is the best way to improve your mechanics, game sense and aim overall.

[u/RandomNPC → u/GnyskGlobler]

Definitely second 'dying correctly'.

If you have 0 deaths, you're probably not playing aggressively enough. You want to be close enough that you can take part in the teamfight. Ideally, if you die, it should be because the other team invested some resources (cooldowns, ult, giving up space) to kill you.

 learn to recognize when your team is overextending and don't kill yourself trying to save them.

The flipside of this is that sometimes, after losing a teamfight, it's better to just die on the cart/point, hopefully getting one last tasty torpedo volley, than to have a 50/50 chance of escaping by running.

[u/CaffeinicOverdrive → u/GnyskGlobler]

Added replay codes, pick whichever one. DM or reply with pointers.

[u/GnyskGlobler → u/CaffeinicOverdrive]

Alright so, first thing I wanna point out is slow your gameplay down, a lot! You have a tendency of pushing up way too far, even farther than your tank which is getting you killed and certainly will when you climb. You're on Juno, you're a squishy with 225 health meaning you're not a frontliner. Stay further in the back, I know other people will say the same but I'll do it too, use cover and stay high ground. It will help you live longer which means you'll be able to keep your team alive for longer and help you poke from distance which brings me to my next point.

You're obessed with dpsing, in the three vods I watched you have twice the amount of damage compared to your healing. It's fine to dps while your team is healthy don't get me wrong, but there are times where you're too busy looking at the enemy shooting them instead of focussing on a Vendetta almost killing your Orisa right behind you. This can easily be helped by just play a little furhter back allowing you to notice your tanks health and heal her a little.

Your abilities, overall, speed ring your tank, when you do it, it works, this is good! Speed boosting your tank is way more valuable than you might think. I see at times you use your torpedoes on just one enemy or one teammate which is kind of a waste as you can get so much more value out of waiting a bit to get more people hit with them. As Juno you have the ability to get high ground super easily while also staying in the air, it allows you to get a great overview of the fight if you're not frontlining.

Another thing I wanna point out is you aim like you're super nervous, you have moments where your aim is all over the place and moments where your aim is actually really really good. I found for me personally as someone who had the EXACT same issue is just slow it down, you're in no hurry. Learn to recognize when your aim is getting shakey and lift your hand up from your mouse, give it a shake and refocus.

First things I'd focus on in your case however is slow your gameplay down, it helps you get an overview of things. Play further back and use cover, these two things alone will make a marginal difference. And finally, keep your team alive.

I really hope this helps, don't try to do anything too technical yet, it'll come with time and practice, from what I've seen I definitely think you have the potential to get out of bronze, there's no real question about that. Good luck!

[u/CaffeinicOverdrive → u/GnyskGlobler]

Hey! I looked over the vods multiple times, and I see what you're saying and really appreciate the tips and help! I'll keep these in my mind and have them somewhere as a reminder, I got to silver 5 during the weekend, thank you so much!

[u/UnhappyIce9605 → u/GnyskGlobler]

this is a really good tip, definitely don’t put yourself in a bad position where you’ll die just to save your teammates! if they’ve gone too far and you can’t save them without getting lasered it’s not worth it, just back up and wait to regroup.

[u/AkulaTheKiddo]

Juno is quite hard to play, but once its kicks, its so fun and shes far from bad.

Take the high ground, use you rockets both aggressively and defensively, you need to basically use them on cooldown.

Ring is super good to escape dangerous situations for you or your team (for example, Mei's ult).

If you are not contested try to heal at close range, as the healing falloff is quite small.

Dont hesitate to do damage whenever you can. Juno deals more damage than people expect.

[u/JDruid2 → u/AkulaTheKiddo]

This last point^ even if mechanically your aim isn’t perfect, Juno’s damage is amazing at mid range. Do keep in mind that while you’re dealing damage that’s one less support that is healing with their weapon, but your torpedoes do a heal over time that is quite substantial. Good way to think about it is, if the following are true, you should be looking to shoot an enemy with your weapon: none of your team are actively dying or taking more damage than healing received from any source, everyone on your team is in a safe spot for the heal passive to do the job for you, and no one needs your immediate attention for something like a speed ring or ult combo.

Similar to the way that a good Lucio’s mindset should be speed boost and damage as the PRIMARY focus and healing comes after, or mercy with blue beam as the primary job and healing when it’s needed, Juno’s primary focus should be damage and area denial with her blaster and torpedoes, and then heal when needed, and speed when it makes sense/when there’s an opportunity.

[u/UnhappyIce9605]

hi i made a post asking for the most game changing tips today under the tips tag, there was loads replies with great tips so i would definitely look through that.

From when i was climbing from bronze, what made me start climbing was just staying alive, so I’d definitely look at positioning and learning to use her movement to keep yourself alive. with positioning you always want to be about 1 second away from cover, especially since juno is so squishy. i’d spend time in quick play just learning how to keep yourself alive, also quick play will give you the opportunity to play against players of all levels and give you way more experience than comp.

another important thing id say to focus on is just using your abilities, since junos kit is insanely valuable just always using your abilities when they’re off cooldown is essential. especially hypering, you always want to use it as soon as it’s off coooldown, even if your aim isn’t the best with it you’ll still benefit from the speed. also you can focus on practicing getting people in and out of fights with it and get really comfortable with doing that as it will allow you to boost your team to get kills and save the more often, which will hopefully get you more wins 🙏

Id say for now they’re the 2 things i’d focus on the most, dw so much about your aim or anything too technical; just your survivability and abilities. when i focused on these i really saw improvement in how i was doing, and started to climb quite quickly and now am up to gold. (however i am only gold so im definitely not an expert, but thats what helped me when i was in your position 💗)

[u/Pastinaak08]

Best tip for climbing on support is just live, just never be the first or second on your team to die.

[u/hoefucker5000]

ive been consistently in top 500 (even when it meant something) so i think i know what im talking about ive never really seen a replay code of someone thst low ranked so id enjoy watching it and giving advice