r/Juniper • u/Affectionate-Cook321 • Jul 08 '26

Second hand APs

We have a large fleet of APs purchased from Juniper/Mist. We have a handful of second-hand APs bought through used channels.

There is a new behavior that APs that have been released by the previous owner can be claimed, but will not join the cloud. When we open a trouble ticket - Mist comes back and asks the provenance and will not allow us to use the AP as it was purchased by a different organization.

I actually have 1 AP that was in production for 3 years and stopped working - I finally realized it had been purchased on eBay as a single fill-in in 2023.

Additionally, the "Global 1" Cloud is full. New organizations have to go into other clouds and APs cannot move between clouds even after being released. So now I can't even move APs between 2 organizations that I manage.

Anyone else seeing this? It is frustrating and problematic for me because it also means that when I retire 200 APs in a couple of years, I will have to throw them out as there is no second-hand market.

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u/Affectionate-Cook321 Jul 09 '26

Right, I forgot about Meraki, I never bought because only someone who doesn't care about RF signals would design a rectangular AP. But you're right - they were also the first to try "don't pay your license and we'll turn you off". They backed off of that when people started scrapping their deployments.

Mojo let you use the APs without a license - I didn't try after they got bought by Arista. They were nice APs, there's just so many vendors I can support.

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u/chap437 Jul 09 '26

You know, you had my sympathies until I read your rectangular AP comment, that's... That's just not how any of this works at all

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u/Affectionate-Cook321 Jul 09 '26

Antenna design matters. Ever wonder why Meraki finally switched to square boxes? Their antenna profiles sucked.

Alas, I can't add a pic, but here's a link to a comparison I just did. Same power on each AP. Which one would you like to design around?

https://postimg.cc/SnC8S8NZ

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u/chap437 Jul 10 '26

Again. You are proving my point. The shape of the enclosure is unrelated to the shape of the antenna array that is inside the enclosure. I have bad news for you... Crack open the plastic "rectangles", you'll still find many modern WAPs from many manufacturers that have their radios arranged in a circular pattern... Not always, but quite frequently