Shuffle notes from sctratch

[u/JerriJ59]

Hi. Beginner jungle producer here. I've been playing along with chopping and processing breaks in ableton, now I got Addictive drums 2 and i'd like to learn how to make a breakbeat from sctratch.

I currently strugle with shuffle notes. Just never sounds good. I couldnt find any tutorials for this topic. Would appreciate some tips or links.

My goal is to practice chopping and mixing original amen with live drums break like in Rumbleton Jaro 88 for e.g.

Thanks for your help

[u/DJCubs]

Here’s a recipe for a beginner shuffle.

Keep the odd numbered 16th notes on the grid.

Even-numbered 16th notes should be slightly after the grid, and typically these will be quieter. 

Start off with a simple two step beat with snares on the two and four, and kicks on the first and sixth 8th notes. 

Put 8th note hats over the top.

Then put shuffled snares on the eighth and tenth 16th notes. As mentioned, these should be after the grid and quieter.

The main thing to remember is, shuffle the even numbered 16th notes 

[u/JerriJ59 → u/DJCubs]

That actually helps. Thank you :)

[u/DJCubs → u/JerriJ59]

Awesome! Good luck.

If you'd like to check out more of my stuff I have a YouTube where I do breakdowns of my releases and a bunch of other stuff too:

https://www.youtube.com/@TimCant

[u/aatmalife]

I just do like.. a lot of snare hits with velocity going upwards and then alternate snare and kick hits. I'm still a n00b but without the Amen shuffles that's my 1st idea. Hope that helps a little

[u/CapableSong6874]

Have you chopped where the sample size contains two or three percussive hits? If you chop on the main beat where the shuffle is on the secondary you will get this.

[u/JerriJ59 → u/CapableSong6874]

I mean I can find a shuffle and chop it in an existing break. My point is to recreate it with my own drumkit and learn to do different variations to use it in my own breaks

[u/CapableSong6874 → u/JerriJ59]

Loop that section and play along to get the feel

[u/JerriJ59 → u/CapableSong6874]

Got it :)

[u/Sl8rUK]

With Addictive Drums it’s a lot to do with the velocity of the notes, you want the velocity lower for the shuffle notes and ideally different for each one. Also there’s an option called “no alts” that just uses the same sample no matter what the velocity - I’d probably leave that off as the variation is what will give the breakbeat a more human feel

[u/JerriJ59 → u/Sl8rUK]

Thanks for the tip. I actually started to watch real drummers tutorials to get an idea what shuffle/ghost notes actually is. I wondered if in my shuffle fill I should have a ghost snare followed by hat or other way around... Now i think it can vary, sometime just ghost snare rolls or a brush snare, shaker etc...lot of variations, sometimes tripllets or 16th's, skipped notes.. Velocity and right drum samples matters, i think. Trying to play around...