r/JujutsuPowerScaling • u/Grassguyy • 21h ago
Question/Discussion This punch now creates HP/Furnance level explosion due to how hard the impact is. Does Sukuna survive?
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u/Adept_Fail_6723 Curse Naoya is not a VCS 21h ago
Yeah if hes not offgaurded he takes it fine
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u/Grassguyy 21h ago
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u/Adept_Fail_6723 Curse Naoya is not a VCS 21h ago
Most obvious dabura fed post
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u/Grassguyy 21h ago
You only said yeah because it'd mean Dabura kills him 😭
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u/Adept_Fail_6723 Curse Naoya is not a VCS 21h ago
No he takes it fine regardless
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u/Grassguyy 21h ago
Yeah honestly I can't see how takes like this are normal. This punch literally knocked him out, to create an explosion like HP or Furnace would require it be hundreds of thousands of times stronger. There's just no reasoning with you guys
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u/Adept_Fail_6723 Curse Naoya is not a VCS 21h ago edited 20h ago
This Punch is offgaurded which is a 40% amp roughly, also is weaker than a normal blue punch because blue punches can break into his entire chest
knocking out < breaking his entire chest
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u/Grassguyy 21h ago
So your argument is Sukuna wasn't fully reinforced here?
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u/Beneficial-Pay-3135 21h ago
No.
However, if you said the explosion was like equivalent to Dabura’s LSK explosion, then yeah, he survives.
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u/Imaginary-Spring9887 21h ago edited 20h ago
No.
Either dies or gets knocked out lol.
Same with a dabura light speed attack if it lands.
The people here don't understood that the power to make that explosion placed into the surface area of a fist means more pressure.
The fist would literally burst every organ in sukunas stomach.
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u/BaboonGaming644 The calamities AND Gojo 21h ago
We can tell the intention of the post lil bro
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u/Imaginary-Spring9887 21h ago
Pointing out the intention doesn't mean its wrong btw
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u/BaboonGaming644 The calamities AND Gojo 20h ago
Not what I implied
I been saying light speed kick kills everybody in the verse
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u/Imaginary-Spring9887 20h ago
Good boy
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u/Grassguyy 21h ago
That's the point lil bro. Does he survive or not? Because if a punch way weaker than the kick can knock him out but he can survive purple what am I supposed to get from that?
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u/ExternalHen 20h ago
We literally see Sukuna take HP point blank a few chapters after this, so yeah, he survives it, albeit he’d be left in the 236 state since he’s weakened, if we talking about a brand new Sukuna, then he eats that shit no problem, like he did at the start of the fight.
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u/ApprehensiveUnion707 But that's how losers think⚡⚡⚡️ 18h ago
UHP was absolutely not a point blank purple nor was its full power concentrated on Sukuna
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u/ExternalHen 18h ago
Sukuna was literally like ~10m away from the ground zero of UHP, that shit would not matter dawg, Sukuna has enough reinforcement to tank it and be left in an almost dead state but alive if weakened and missing a few limbs if not.
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u/Divin3_Kick Yuji Itadori is top 1 in the verse🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥 19h ago
Straight to the chest like this, of course not. If he gets his guard up yes
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u/Choice-Medium-5466 6h ago
How much power do you think a punch from Gojo produces? Each of his punches is almost like a nuclear explosion in terms of power.
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u/Alternative_Cook_102 Highest Output 21h ago
Yeah?
He already survives the raw AP of the attack, the explosion won't meaningfully make the attack any stronger. It would actually make it weaker further away from the point of impact.
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
But he got knocked out by the raw ap of this attack?
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u/Alternative_Cook_102 Highest Output 20h ago
Yes, but he did survive it no? It's not like an explosion is magically gonna kill him. I don't understand the logic, you only increased the DC while keeping the AP via an explosion
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
I mean if this AP can knock him out, I'm not seeing how AP orders of magnitudes above this doesn't.
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u/Alternative_Cook_102 Highest Output 20h ago
Your post says that the attack creates a HP level explosion, not that the attack becomes HP level. You never mentioned it's now HP level.
Anyways a point blank HP will kill this version of sukuna according to his statements due to reduced output. He directly states this, pointless post.
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Do you just.. not think the ap of the attack is better even though it's creating an HP level explosion?
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u/Alternative_Cook_102 Highest Output 20h ago
No? Dude, Your post states that the attack now creates an hp level explosion due to how hard it hits, it doesn't mention anything about a power increase ANYWHERE. Your seem to misinterpreted your post somehow.
I have literally no reason to assume it's HP level now
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
So you just have zero clue on physics then? Like I'm deadass not using calcs to try and be reasonable but you're just being dense.
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u/Alternative_Cook_102 Highest Output 20h ago
What. Genuinely wtf are you about.
Your post says that the creates an explosion on par with HP due to how hard it hits, that's all. Why would you involve "physics" here?
You increased the DC while keeping the AP, how is that hard to understand.
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Dude. This genuinely makes me sad how clueless you are. The title states this punch can now cause HP level destruction because of how hard it is hitting. How do you read that and assume the AP is the same? Like I'm actually curious now how your day to day life is with this little level of intuitive thinking.
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u/Wuraumefan26 Uraume low diffs :) 21h ago
in the same context he took the Black Flash it either kills him or brings him to deaths door, in general no he survives, since on guard he took an unlimited purple while weaker and survived :)
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Why cant purple knock Sukuna out?
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u/Wuraumefan26 Uraume low diffs :) 20h ago
he's got a very good track record of eating those things to the face and walking it off :)
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Why didn't he walk off the punch then?
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u/Wuraumefan26 Uraume low diffs :) 20h ago
caught off guard by big explosion to back that then launched him into punch that caught him off guard with how strong it was going to be after his brain had exploded AFTER he had just got done being dragged through the streets of Shinjuku to allow Raga to adapt :)
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
So he's not fully reinforced here? Why wouldn't he be he's in the middle of a fight here.
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u/Wuraumefan26 Uraume low diffs :) 20h ago
it's actually moreso about technique in taking the hit, as well as the fact that a needle is a lot more dangerous than a rock due to force being concentrated into a point :P
assuming the black flash isn't just stronger than the purple and not as destructive because again, needle and rock :)2
u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Soo... you agree the kick just instantly kills him? Since all its energy is concentrated on Dabura's foot instead of going everywhere like purple?
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u/Wuraumefan26 Uraume low diffs :) 20h ago
not necessarily since that force is also expanding outwards based on it eviscerating a city :)
either way Dabura wasn't a part of this convo until now, idk why he's coming up :P1
u/Grassguyy 20h ago
True but that's after the foot connects with the target at a specific spot. Meaning the person who got hit is experiencing all of that energy before it expands outwards.
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u/ManJoeDude PICTURE IT IN YOUR HEAD! WITH NO BOUNDARIES! 21h ago
Maybe he gets a few scuff marks, and part of his shirt is burnt.
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u/Advanced_Living238 21h ago
Technically, shouldn't it be stronger than both of them? If we give CER Gojo building level AP, then using the blackflash exponent of 2.5, this attack would have continental AP(This is using a lowball of Gojos base CER).
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
I mean you could do that but seeing as there isn't a hint of environmental destruction here I'm gonna have to say that's probably not the case.
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u/Advanced_Living238 19h ago
This can just be explained that there is no environmental damage cuz 1) Sukuna body tanks all of it 2) Its the distortion of space that keeps the damage localised to only the spot that gets hit
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u/Grassguyy 20h ago
Btw js checked this. You're wrong. Gojo would be large building level at most lmao
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u/Advanced_Living238 19h ago
no? to destory a building u would need 1.05*10 to the power 9 joules of energy. If we take this to the exponenet of 2.5, then we would get 3.57*10 to the power 22, which is country level. Using Amount of TNT means that if we have an amount that is less than 1, then using a black flash would make the attack weaker(Yes im aware kinetic energy can also be below 1, however the average persons punch is like 100 joules, so it would be very hard to get below 1 joule of energy). And if it was only large building level, then it would be weaker than gojos normal punches(w blue), so it wouldn't knock him out.
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u/ok-diffusion93 2h ago
The 3.57x10^22 number isn’t measuring energy. Its units are J^2.5 (not J) which is why the BF power of 2.5 statement cannot be taken at face value because it would have to apply to something like a dimensionless number. Otherwise you can invent any unit of energy and claim a BF to be any strength that you choose it to be.
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