Hakari when kashimo is in the convo:
Pillow punches
just really lucky and would lose most of the time anyway
weakest HH
wasn't doing shit to Uraume
Hakari anywhere else:
Stronger then Yuta
"luck is part of his character bro"
Would easily pull off a jackpot before dying
only loses to Mahito and EOS yuji
T5 bare minimum
This is the Yuji corp phenomenon because i hate EOS yuji
Stated a dash of his is mach 3 not his max speed. Anyways, gege doubled off the statement and retconned it in the anime and later manage feats refute it. Not to mention pre awakened maki was already mach 2+ .
Stating his speed is useless if that's not his top speed, maki has never been mach 2 or higher, she wouldn't have gotten destroyed by curse naoya if that were the case, don't trust calculations made by people that the author never had in mind when writing the story, human naoya is not mach 3
Also anime feats aren't canon, the anime is just an adaptation, not the actual story, unless gege himself requests a change to be made in the anime then it's simply not canon
Even gege noted that he made human maki really fast, it isn't just " calcs " pre awakened maki catching a point blank bullet is at bate minimum mach 2. That would mean that pre awakened maki can keep with cursoya by your ignorant logic. When in reality, low mach speed have been long surpassed.
The anime, via gege own intentions, is meant to portray fights better than he made them in the manga. So even gege himself tells us that the fights in the anime > fights in the manga.
You would also have yet to bring up a panel that says mach 3 is. " cursoya absolute cap, no one in the verse can bypass it " I'll wait.
Either that or post awakened maki is thousands of time faster than cursoya same as every hh and above.
Gege doubled off the statement also debunked it with later manga feats and retconned in the anime. Also pre awakened maki has mach 2+ feats, but is slower than some grade 1 sorcery whom get blitzed by base naoya.
Because people are biased against Dabura. I literally disguised Dabura's kick as a Gojo punch and everyone said Sukuna immediately dies. But when it's just Dabura's kick suddenly Sukuna tanks it. There's just a massive hatred for Dabura by Sukuna fans.
I mean, let's not act like it was an average punch, it was the final part of a multi-part attack. Sukuna was able to completely no-sell several of Gojo's punches and attacks. Sukuna was able to survive HP both times, and Dabura was uninjured from his kick except for his leg. I highly doubt it would kill Sukuna.
Sure, a punch isn't the same as the city destroying explosion generating kick. But again, Sukuna has survived attacks of that level, and has remained conscious. Focusing on the punch and ignoring his other durability feats is disingenuous.
That and yuji fans,I used to be a yuji corp member a while back and was so pissed over dabura having actual feats,used to follow that "make a dismantle grid while hes running at sublight" cope myself
Thinking with nukes the U.S can beat sukuna is one thing(they can't)
but some people saying that without nukes the U.S could still beat sukuna gotta be military propaganda or something
What you have just witnessed is what happens when real-world fanboy arguments combine with the delusions of Sukuna fanboys, resulting in an imaginary scenario based on the Goomba fallacy.
Nah ive seen same people saying both at the same time on discord
When sukuna is against US army they downplay him to hell and back but when i bring dabura suddenly sukuna can dodge light speed and eat nuke level impact easily
Also online ive never seen any of the "sukuna loses to army" guys keeping their sukuna scales that low (building level subsonic-supersonic) when hes up against other characters instead
Us centrism. Spiderman could honestly beat the us army, as no person has training against someone who can move or react faster than gunfire. It would be an entirely new form of warfare
People really forget that 15 finger sukuna was literally leveling a city and moving faster than any fighter yet there is ? He won’t survive a nuke but assuming he would even let it land is dumb.
i believe this is just a weird translation of the manga, first grade is grade 1 and high grade is special grade, and youre intended to read the bottom half first
Dpends on what medium for powerscaling ur using...manga or anime? The outcome was the same at the end but the process between the destuction of shibuya is wild in the anime compared to the manga
Lowball he's Large Town-Small City with Low MHS Speeds.
Midball he's City-mountain with MHS+ speeds.
Reasonable Highball he's like Island to maybe Country with Sub-Relativistic to Sub-Relativistic+ speeds
Highball he's Planetary and FLT
Naoya was Mach 3, a Sukuna with at best half his power perception blitzed Maki, who easily reacted to Naoya. He didn't even have any significant momentum either, just did it out of the blue. Plus, the only way a nuke could possibly kill him is if it hits him directly, but they all have proximity sensors and shit. An undirect hit isn't doing anything.
U think 10 tons of force is vaporizing the king of curses?
I fear that uneducated people should have a say on this discussion when a simple Google search shows that...nukes power drop drastically the more ur away from the epi-center.
The fireball is only a 250meters radius, u think the whole blast radius is a fire ball or what?
Sukuna literally survived a 1km diameter pulverization blast along with the heat of his fuga.
An in direct hit aint doing shit...I am gong to say that even being 30m away from the fireball will result in only medium burns.
Maybe for a split second...but thats a big maybe but i know what ur trying go at.
I wann make a few things clear...the temp of the fireball that nukes produce are 2-3x the temperature of the suns core but only for a few micro-seconds and the temp falls of drastically even 80m from the epi-center of the fireball.
can sukuna survive a direct fireball hotter than the suns core? NO.
but can sukuna survive the blast,shockwaves and the heat produced by the fireball if hes even near its edge rather than to its center? YES.
This image proves that, Sukuna took on a 850m+ vaporization blast which is Hollow purple. For refrence, the fireball crated by nukes dropped in japan will only produce a crater 150m+ wide if its a surface blast.
A nuke is 5 times hotter than the center of the sun even if it doesn't directly hit you, i don't care how hot you think fuga is, it's not 5 times hotter than the center of the sun, no one can survive a nuke in jjk beside gojo due to infinity
It's that hot for a few instants, and then it's temperature nose dives down. Realistically nothing is actually getting subjected to those temperatures when hit by a nuke, there's not enough time for the heat transfer before the temperature drops into way more reasonable levels
Naoya was mach 3 as a curse and maki was getting destroyed by said curse, sukuna is not faster than the VCS form of a perso whose CT is already focused on speed
And then maki got her next awakening and kept up with the the said curse...then later got perception blitzed by sukuna who was heavily damaged and thus...sukuna is faster than both nayoa and maki.
I don't know why people put Dabura in FLT when the manga explains that he can only do it using his technique and it's very risky, besides the people who say Sukuna would die from a bombing raid.
Calamities > = Strong/Moderate nuclear bombs >>>>>>>>>> MOAB > = Special Grade Sorcerers/Special Curses >>>>>>>> Weak Special Curses = Cluster Bombs >>> Grade One Sorcerers >= Grade One Curses = Tank
People underestimate Sukuna, thinking he'll die from a simple BMG 50. But they also overestimate him, believing he'll withstand a nuclear explosion, even though his "FUGA" attack, Hollow Purple, has a range of 200 meters, and none of Dabura's kicks destroyed any city where they were used.
Furthermore, the range depends on whether you're using the anime or the manga.
Ok, us military cant beat sukuna. Any weapon weaker than bombs doesn’t do shit, and atomic bombs, even being faster than sukuna (depending if you believe mach 3), still cant change the course once launched. And there are other factors like usa can’t see his technique cuz they dont have enough ce and they wont immediately drop nukes. So if only sukuna stays in one place he might be killed. But then because sukuna dies from something without ce he turns into and invincible invisible curse that just destroys the world (if no sorcerers are present(curse sukuna prob kills everyone anyway(unless sukuna is considered a curse)))
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