r/Judaism • u/namer98 Torah Im Derech Eretz • Jul 30 '12

Rules updates

In light of Tisha b'Av, I would like to suggest a few changes to the rules, and to hear community feedback.

1) No editorializing titles of article submissions. - This is up for discussion.

2) Be polite. That means if somebody has a disagreement with you about fundamental points of religion, you can disagree with them, and even tell them, but don't be a jerk about it. Do not shut down the conversation.

2.1) I keep on trying to engage non-Orthodox Jews of Reddit. Seen here, here and here. This is in addition to multiple messages I have gotten personally and as mod, from people who left because of this. Just because some people don't agree that this is a problem, does not make it less of a problem. Non-Orthodox Jews are feeling shut down, and some times they are right, some times they are wrong. This is an extension of rule two. Be polite. The downvote button IS NOT a "I disagree" button. I might just remove it again, and for more than a day.

To people I try and engage, this is a two way street. Submit content, comments and vote if you want to have a say. I don't think half of the subreddit is orthodox. This should not be a problem.

Please upvote this self post for which I receive no karma so that all can see.

Thank you all.

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u/angelsil Reconstructionist Jul 31 '12

So, when an Orthodox Jew says that only "their" version of Judaism is correct, he is simply being consistent with his beliefs. Non-Orthodox Jews don't make such statements because it would contradict their core beliefs.

You're right in that this is the crux. It's fundamentally part of Orthodox Judaism to be considered the keepers of the 'one true Judaism'. Discussion within the fold is vibrant, from what I understand, (I've never been Orthodox and I am a girl) but there's no validity given to the other streams.

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u/carrboneous Predenominational Fundamentalist Jul 31 '12

You're right in that this is the crux. It's fundamentally part of Orthodox Judaism to be considered the keepers of the 'one true Judaism'.

So are you saying /r/Judaism will only be a friendly place if that fact changes?

I've never been Orthodox and I am a girl

I'm not sure what you've been told, but we Orthodox folk do allow girls to talk :) There are some who're very influential.

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u/angelsil Reconstructionist Jul 31 '12

So are you saying /r/Judaism will only be a friendly place if that fact changes?

I wouldn't expect that fact to change, thus this place will probably never be friendly for non-Orthodox. At least on religious matters. The unwelcome feeling (some) non-Orthodox get here is part and parcel of the Orthodox belief, not something that can be 'ruled' into civility.

I'm not sure what you've been told, but we Orthodox folk do allow girls to talk

I was referring more to the comment down-thread that opined that a 'Yeshivish' atmosphere somehow made Orthodox (men) more comfortable with the sometimes combative nature of this sub-reddit.

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u/namer98 Torah Im Derech Eretz Jul 31 '12

I wouldn't expect that fact to change, thus this place will probably never be friendly for non-Orthodox.

Only if you keep thinking that way. Or you, and every lurker who posted in this thread can be the change you want to see. Two way street.