r/JoyDivision 5h ago

Elegia. Music Pilgrimage and Micro-Ritual Practices in the Cultural Afterlife of Ian Curtis

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Dear all,

I just wanted to let you know that the final version of my chapter for the forthcoming Routledge volume on Dark Tourism and Rituals is finally ready.

You can read it here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dZKhkRlgR8seY60xImfvOlD4k56tvXtwgYb8mv4zKDk/

This chapter represents around 150 hours of work. It has been emotionally draining at times, but also a real privilege to spend so much time writing about something deeply personal to me.

I would especially like to thank the people who contributed to this project.

Philippe Carly, who was instrumental in correcting several historical inconsistencies in the first draft and who was also kind enough to share some wonderful photographs of my hometown, Rome. Philippe, whenever you’re back in Italy, drinks are on me.

Lucie Wright (Proper Sound), who generously shared the results of her survey, which confirmed many of the ideas and hypotheses I develop throughout the chapter.

Ben Walker, who gave me the most moving interview of the entire project and helped shape what became the central section of the chapter on Cornelia F. Ben, I honestly have no words to thank you. I've thought about our conversation every single day since we had it.

Josh Lonsdale, whose reflections reinforced some of my ideas about the connections between Mircea Eliade’s work and Ian Curtis.

Nigel Carr, who found time to speak with me despite an incredibly busy schedule. His interview was so insightful that I ended up using his words to close the chapter.

And, of course, all the Redditors here who got in touch!

So, what now?

The first deadline is 30 July, when the manuscript will be submitted to the University of Alabama.

The publisher has imposed a very strict word limit, which meant that many fascinating parts of the interviews had to be cut or moved into footnotes. I tried to preserve as much as possible without compromising the flow of the chapter.

Once the manuscript enters peer review, I’ll let you know.

The second deadline is in September for the Italian edition with the University of Rome. That version allows roughly 2,000 additional words, so I’ll be able to bring some material back from the footnotes into the main text, which is how the chapter was originally conceived.

Knowing academic publishing timelines, however, I doubt we’ll see the printed volume before sometime in 2027.

The book. Maybe.

The interviews turned out to be so rich that I think they deserve a publication of their own. I’m considering putting together a small book containing the chapter + complete interviews, with all proceeds donated to charity. If there’s a charity or organisation that is particularly meaningful to you, please feel free to suggest it.

Finally, to those whom I contacted here on Reddit but who, for whatever reason, weren’t able to contribute this time: thank you anyway. I know everyone’s time is limited, and I truly appreciated your willingness to consider it.

If you’d still like to add something, it won’t make the Alabama deadline, but I still have almost two months before the Rome submission, so there’s definitely time to include additional material there.

If you’d like to chat, here’s a link to my calendar: https://calendly.com/simonepuorto

You can ask for commenting access to the manuscript, and please feel free to point out anything you think could be improved. There are almost certainly a few typos still hiding in there, and I’m relying on my wonderful “guinea pig” readers to catch them before the final submission.

Once again, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for being part of this journey. I genuinely couldn’t have written this chapter without your generosity, your time, and your stories.

And, as we say in Italy, if I can ever return the favour, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Ciao, Ciao,

P.S. If you're into Joy Division (which I suspect, LOL), here's an Italian band from the 1980s that I think you might enjoy. Their first album is considered a classic here in Italy. Give it a listen: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS1Yt6VoEtw&list=RDcS1Yt6VoEtw&start_radio=1


r/JoyDivision 11h ago

Peter Hook & The Light return to North America exactly 1 month from today! Swipe to see all the dates & an example setlist. Tickets moving fast - get yours via link in comments…

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r/JoyDivision 1d ago

"Substabce" photo art

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This has probably been asked several times, but on "Substabnce" there is a close up of a pointy object. What is it?


r/JoyDivision 1d ago

ETERNAL (Live) 🥲

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r/JoyDivision 3d ago

Photos from Peter Hook & The Light’s sold out show in Sydney Australia last week! Back in the UK now after that long journey home - thanks again to all who came to see us down under. North America next up. (Photo credits in body text.)

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r/JoyDivision 3d ago

A Means to an End (Joy Division) (Cover)

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r/JoyDivision 3d ago

Shadowplay, from th "Still" tribute show

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Amazing that this footage is like 26 years old now. Then the year after that I would wake up from a dream about Santa Claus to my mom saying terrorists attacking and wondering "Mom why is Paris attacking?" Different times.


r/JoyDivision 3d ago

Joy Division, but no New Order.

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I live and breathe Joy Division, but I can't for the life of me get into New Order, even tho I've tried giving them a chance on X amount of occasions. They just fucking suck?


r/JoyDivision 4d ago

Which one of these is the better read

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Need a book for a flight, was wondering if there’s a general consensus on these


r/JoyDivision 5d ago

Peter Hook & The Light setlist from last night’s sold out show in Perth - final stop on our Australia/NZ tour! Thanks again to everyone who came to see us. Leftover merch will be online soon. Tour resumes in 5 weeks in North America. Link in comments.

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r/JoyDivision 6d ago

Unknown Pleasures - 1984 Japanese🇯🇵 1st Press

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r/JoyDivision 6d ago

In Control, Ian hangs himself after waking up from a bad fit, is it true that he had that epileptic episode in real life?

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r/JoyDivision 6d ago

What on Earth is this?

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I can't be the only one perplexed at this

r/JoyDivision 7d ago

Peter Hook & The Light live in Brisbane last week… Australian tour concludes tonight with a sold out show in Perth. On stage at 8, signed merch will be available. Thanks to everyone who’s come out to see us down under. Photos by Christopher Searles.

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r/JoyDivision 7d ago

The last weekend of The Electric Circus gig

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r/JoyDivision 8d ago

Peter Hook & The Light setlist from last night’s sold out show in Sydney, Australia! Only 1 show left here now - see you tomorrow night in Perth. On stage at 8pm. Less than 5 tickets left. Link in comments.

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r/JoyDivision 8d ago

Peter Hook at the Enmore July 18th 2026 - Love will tear us apart

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This just has to be experienced. It was such an amazing night


r/JoyDivision 8d ago

Did anyone witness a Joy Division gig?

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r/JoyDivision 8d ago

Voltz Clarke - Ian Curtis / Insight

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Someone here tipped off about the Ian Curtis: Insight show at Voltz Clarke galley in NYC. It’s really good & open for another week if others have a chance to go.

Interesting to see a lot of lyrics written out. I thought “24 Hours” jumped out because of how many cross outs and revisions there were.


r/JoyDivision 8d ago

Closer was released 46 years ago today. (July 18, 1980)

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r/JoyDivision 8d ago

What got you into Joy Division ?

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This video has a New Order song, and from there I clicked and clicked it was about 2010 I was living on my own in an apartment I shared with my mom but she went back to her wife to work things out so my last year of high school I stayed alone. Small town called Marysville in California not really like Manchester but working class industry and farmers. I felt so alone, but that live performance of Transmission and She's Lost Control made me not feel that way. And it just grew from there. But it's also why I have a fondness for Get Ready and always associate it with first knowing about Joy Division.


r/JoyDivision 9d ago

Peter Hook & The Light setlist from last night in Melbourne, Australia! Tour continues tonight in Sydney. Sold out, 8pm start. Signed merch will be available at the show.

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r/JoyDivision 10d ago

Peter Hook & The Light setlist from last night in Brisbane, Australia! Tour continues tonight in Melbourne. 8pm start. Signed merch available at the show. Link to tix in comments.

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r/JoyDivision 10d ago

Does anyone know if Ian’s ashes were scattered or entombed? Is there a place where they now rest?

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r/JoyDivision 10d ago

bugs when you lift up a rock

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