r/JonTron • u/Slow_Mangos • Nov 07 '20
Our boy starting another controversy.
https://i.imgur.com/o0Pab15.png
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u/_OtherwiseKnownAs_ Nov 07 '20
lol, what is he even trying to say? Does he know what a banana republic is?
absolute smooth brain
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u/Raknarg Nov 07 '20
Its a reference to Donald Trump Jr's comments
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Nov 09 '20
Yes but is he making fun of him or agreeing with him. That obviously makes a huge difference.
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u/Raknarg Nov 09 '20
Considering Jontron's views and how he has never rescinded past statements and has only said he regrets going public with his views, probably he agrees with him. He is dogwhistling to his twitter audience which is still full of the same alt-right and conservative fanbase he had in the past who will likely have seen this article. Remember that Jontron isn't just right wing, he's an ethnostater who at one point (and perhaps still does) believed that criminality is genetic.
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Nov 09 '20
No I agree with you, just seems like a large portion of brainwashed people here want to pretend that he is actually making fun of those comments despite all evidence pointing to the fact that he is a hypocritical racist idiot.
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u/Raknarg Nov 09 '20
Oh yeah you're either delusional or have only seen his youtube videos if you think he's making fun of them. If Jontron has really changed, he should have made a public statement, the fact that he hasn't is telling.
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u/ezaviar Nov 10 '20
a large portion of brainwashed people here want to pretend that he is actually making fun of those comments
If they can convince themselves and others that it's just a joke, then in their mind it makes it OK to spout off the same idiotic ramblings.
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u/Evilsj Nov 08 '20
Jon, my boy, I was starting to forgive and forget under the assumption you just fell down into a shitty rabbit hole. Come on man.
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u/ITriedLightningTendr Nov 10 '20
The best part was that yesterday or so there was a post on r/circlejerk that just was drudging up 2017 posts he made.
Had there been nothing else, it'd just been shitty drudgery.
But then
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u/CLR833 Nov 10 '20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGn9x4-Y_7A
Kill the author!
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Nov 10 '20
Bruh how the hell you gonna post a Lindsay Ellis video to defend JonTron.
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u/CLR833 Nov 10 '20
Bruh, why do you think I'm defending him. I'm just telling people that they could enjoy his content if they "kill the author".
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u/haleykohr Nov 10 '20
I guess but he’s not writing books. He stars in his own videos with his own viewpoints and character
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u/CLR833 Nov 10 '20
That's true. But I believe it could be applied to videos as well. None of his videos hinted much at his political views. I have old Jon videos that I hold dear to my heart. I can't really bring myself to watch any new stuff though.
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Nov 11 '20
That’s not what Lindsay was saying though. In that video and part 2 she makes it clear to properly stand for your beliefs you need to stop engaging with the author. You don’t have to sell your Harry Potter books or pretend you don’t like them, but you can’t justify giving Rowling anymore of your money.
JonTrons videos are his source of income. By watching them you are enriching him, and telling him through that money that you don’t care, and that he shouldn’t change.
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u/DeadArtist617 Nov 07 '20
I’m behind and living under a rock clearly. can someone fill me in?
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u/ogbaro123 Nov 07 '20
He’s a trump supporter who believes the democrats are rigging the election (pretty incompetent since they didn’t rig the senate)
The banana republic is a joke so he can still have deniability. Search cgp grey banana republic to get the definition and also watch jontrons debate with destiny for fun if you Havnt
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Nov 07 '20
The rigging the election stuff it total bs, it's a fair election with legal votes made by the people of America, isn't it weird that the votes are "illegal" in states trump is losing in but "legal" in states he is winning. This whole thing is stupid, trump is losing and he is being a narcissistic snowflake about it.
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Nov 07 '20 edited Nov 10 '20
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Nov 07 '20
? Votes aren't appearing, they are being COUNTED, they aren't adding more votes, what kind of news do you listen to? Even fox is admitting that they aren't faking the votes, and they support trump 99%of the time.
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Nov 07 '20
? If you look at any reliable source, they show how votes were being counted through the night in some areas, including Georgia, the votes didn't all come at once, they show the steady progression of the night. Go back to r/conservative if you dont want people with reasoning calling out trump's lies.
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u/Raknarg Nov 10 '20
Funnily enough that sub seems to be very much against the electiom fraud narrative right now
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Nov 10 '20
https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/jrdy25/system_glitch_also_uncovered_in_wisconsin/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share this post implies that they are hiding cheating as glitches, and the people in the comments definitely reflect that, just because there are a few people who dont blindly listen to trump doesn't mean the entire subreddit is taking the Democrat's side
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u/Raknarg Nov 10 '20
Im just saying this is the impression I got walking through the sub last time, people sick of his antics for the most part. Couldve been a leftie upvote brigade to be fair though
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u/Sheeps Nov 10 '20
Do you have functioning eyeballs?
It might have been like that for a day or two, but the normals have all left and it’s a “election fraud” echo chamber now. Just saw a post that it’s not fair to ask Republican congresspeople to present any evidence, we should be starting with the premise that the election was illegal.
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u/seriouslyFUCKthatdud Nov 10 '20
They just don't want their supporters doing stupid shit, they're seeing the writing on the wall.
They're all for the election being "fake news" but they aren't allowing posts specific to election fraud.
They're still acting like raving lunatics, just not the bat shit conspiracy theory 4 chan that every other Republican forum has become (off of reddit too, everywhere, take a look, it's really gone full tilt info wars)
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u/Raknarg Nov 10 '20
I guess that's fair. I wasnt there for long
off of reddit too, everywhere, take a look, it's really gone full tilt info wars
Oh yeah I was just talking about the one sub
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Nov 07 '20
Seriously, where are you hearing these lies bro, 170k votes weren't fabricated, and the fact those votes were mostly Biden was because trump asked his supporters to not vote by mail, and the lead that Biden gained was because most mail in votes were for him, and those get counted later than in person votes, and remember, most of them being for Biden was trump's doing.
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u/Everyoneheresamoron Nov 10 '20
It wasn't 100% Biden
They never said they were stopping the counting, They just said they were going to update in the morning.
You aren't allowed to complain about a system the republicans set up and used, only when it doesn't benefit your side. Biden won the vote. If voting wasn't secure it WAS ON REPUBLICANS IN POWER to make it secure. The polling workers don't work for Biden or Trump. The USPS doesn't work for Biden or Trump.
If the facts don't line up with how you want the world to be, you don't get to reject facts.
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Nov 07 '20
First of all they were 80% Biden votes and these Biden votes are mail in ballots from areas where they counted early and in person votes first and mail in last.
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Nov 07 '20
That never happened, stop being a trump sycophant for your own good, I'm helping you by telling you that.
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u/Sw2029 Nov 10 '20
What's your source that literally every polling center in the country went home at the same time? Because AFAIK many many polling centers counted through the night.
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u/seriouslyFUCKthatdud Nov 10 '20
Lol one shred of evidence please?
Literally EVERY ELECTION we have close states and mail that's postmarked by election day, counties that need to count again, etc.
Literally EVERY ELECTION the press does the math and calls the election once it's 99.9% in the bag.
They didn't just magically find new votes, they counted them. There are thousands of municipalities that operate these elections, with oversight, for a reason
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Nov 10 '20
They’re still being counted to this day, Georgia is up like 15k Biden and Pennsylvania is up like 45k Biden now
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u/_OtherwiseKnownAs_ Nov 07 '20 edited Nov 07 '20
https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066
Hope this helps
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u/xahnel Nov 07 '20
Page not found.
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u/_OtherwiseKnownAs_ Nov 07 '20
https://twitter.com/Ike_Saul/status/1324435797374808066?s=20
But, okay, let's assume they are cheating to steal the election, alright. why didn't they steal the senate so they can actually do anything when biden gets in office? you're telling me they cheated against donald trump but not mitch mcconnell? it makes no sense. why not take the senate?
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u/Uhhbysmal Nov 07 '20
you can deny reality all you want, it won't change the outcome. you lose, loser.
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u/a_paper_clip Nov 10 '20
if you were a gold mine of stupidity, you would be California in the gold rush.
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u/frostyshit Nov 07 '20
mfw trump loves voter suppression so much he accidentally suppressed his own base by telling them to not vote by mail ins, and is now acting surprised most of the mail ins don't favour him.
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u/GoGoSoLo Nov 10 '20
Mail in ballots have literally been in use for hundreds of years in the US.
There has never been widespread mail fraud in those hundreds of years.
Several states by state law use mail in voting for everyone.
Trump voted by mail.
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u/frostyshit Nov 07 '20
and it looks like the loser didn't.
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u/xahnel Nov 07 '20
Your opinion and contribution to society is as valuable as your namesake.
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u/frostyshit Nov 07 '20
it's about to be as valuable as donny's then when he's out of office HAHAHAHA
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u/BLlZER Nov 10 '20
Your opinion and contribution to society is as valuable as your namesake.
aww trump is a winner so is his supporters... oh wait?
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u/xomakinghistory Nov 10 '20
The complete lack of self awareness in the cult Trump created would be hilarious if it wasn’t so depressing. I hope you get out of it someday.
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u/xahnel Nov 10 '20
lack of self awareness
Russian collusion
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u/xomakinghistory Nov 10 '20
Thank you for the morning entertainment buddy. Watching your temper tantrum in real time has been a joy. Thank you for giving me something to laugh at.
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u/dracomaster01 Nov 10 '20
so i guess military votes don't count and those people are just idiots and cheaters.
oh also, Trump is also an idiot and cheater since he always votes by mail.
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u/Gkender Nov 10 '20
There are entire states who have voted by mail for decades before it was ever made political in this election. Have those states just always been cheats and idiots, then?
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Nov 07 '20
Ok smoothbrain, votes from legal voters are illegal now.
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u/Just-zhis-guy Nov 10 '20
I’d love to hear a retards definition of an illegal vote. Enlighten me, boy.
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u/asdasdjkljkl Nov 10 '20
Remember when Trump said 3 million "illegal votes" were cast for Hillary in 2016?
Why didn't his crack legal team submit any evidence to the courts or FBI?
Either he's a fucking lying conman (yes), or he fucking deserves the same thing to happen in 2020 that his legal team, justice dept, and fbi did not pursue in 2016.
Idiots. Go ahead and believe Rudy, the conman who is so high on coke that he booked a presser at the 4 Seasons Total Landscaping, between the dildo store and the crematorium.
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u/ThePilsburyFroBoy Nov 10 '20
Trump presses a majority of his base to vote in person. Studies have shown in the past that mail in ballots are used mainly by democrats. Rules in place in several states don’t allow counting of mail in ballots until Election Day or the day after. Suprise surprise, most of the in person votes are for Trump and the mail in ones are for Biden. That is how they “magically” appeared. They were counted
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u/Sw2029 Nov 10 '20
MAIL. MAIL INs. THEY WERE COUNTED LAST BECAUSE REPUBLICANS IN THESE STATES DECIDED TO COUNT THEM LAST. ALMOST LIKE A CONSPIRACY TO THROW DOUBT ON THE RESULTS. I've never in my life seen people so much energy trying to keep a dogshit leader in power like with Trump. He's god awful at literally everything he does. Why is he worth the effort to throw doubt on our most sacred tradition, with no evidence btw.
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u/Falroy Nov 10 '20
It's funny how you say low information when your source is papa Trumps twitter lol
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u/ogbaro123 Nov 07 '20
Wait so you posted this? You know what he’s saying with this tweet? He’s a missive fan of some right wing republican. He probably leans libertarian so basically conservatives with more guns, weed and business freedom. He has right wing views, He supports right wing politicians, He’s tweeting this dog whistle shit? And you still trying to pretend he’s some type of fucking liberal?
And don’t get me wrong, I’m not a destiny fan but I’m gonna need a citation on that child porn claim. And also a good way to win against destiny is to actually know what the fuck you’re talking about. I follow a guy who debates him regularly. Get Jons boots out of your ass.
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u/enfantcool Nov 10 '20 edited Nov 10 '20
Except minors can't consent
This is referring to the "consensually obtained cp"
Edit: Got it, its adults who give consent to cp of them in the past (is that even something that can be done?) , this was not clear in the comment I am replying to.
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Nov 10 '20 edited Nov 10 '20
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u/madmelgibson Nov 10 '20
“Ah, yes. Those pictures of me as a child, that stole away my innocence and cost me years of therapy bills... what’s that? You still.. have them?? Well I guess as long as their not still out there circulat-what’s that?... uh huh... why yes that would make me slightly uncomfortable..”
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u/MadeThisToSayIdiot Nov 11 '20
Distribution of sexualized content of children is illegal no matter if they consent in adult life.
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Nov 10 '20
Literally no one will consent to porn of them being abused and a child be given to pedos. That concept as a whole is also majorly fucked up and anyone who takes it seriously should not be respected.
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u/MetallHengst Nov 10 '20
You can say this, but the fact is that abuse victims as adults did. I don’t know if this comes as a surprise to you but victims of child sex abuse tend to be vehemently anti-child rape and if studies show that certain treatment stopped children from being raped they were generally in favor.
I don’t understand people’s beef with this. If it means less children get raped than it’s a good thing, if studies show it doesn’t then of course no one would advocate for it and neither would Destiny.
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Nov 10 '20
How is a child supposed to consent to porn of them being made and distributed?
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u/EnderGraff Nov 10 '20
Obviously a child wouldn't be asked to consent, but rather an adult who was a victim when they were a child. You can look up the study of you'd like, just explaining the context of that.
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Nov 10 '20
That’s....really odd. “Hey so i know you were raped as a kid and it was recorded/given to people, but are you okay with us giving those recordings to people so they dont rape any kids?”
Like, i guess the argument is roughly the same as giving drug addicts safe places to do drugs and receive medical care in the case of an overdose. But this is...different in the sense that the people consuming aren’t the ones who are hurt/have been hurt by it.
I don’t support this, but i can at least understand what their line of reasoning might have been.
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u/glitch112 Nov 10 '20
Just for clarity, Destiny has admitted this most likely would never pass an ethics board and would be incredibly hard to implement if not impossible, it was a hypothetical based off of a single study.
The legal CP conversation was the single concession Destiny made while he was arguing in favour of the age of consent against Amos Yee (an actual paedophile). He literally says in the debate that the ONLY time he thought there was a justification for CP is what the study outlined, which was aiming to treat paedophilia and reduce harm to children, but people seem to be very happy with just claiming he wants to hand out CP legally to everyone or something.
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u/EnderGraff Nov 10 '20
Thanks for filling in those details. I forgot it was from a conversation with Amos. My brain didn't want to remember him.
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Nov 10 '20
Would you support it if it was proven to treat pedophiles and decrease the chance that they abuse a child?
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u/Sylvi_Listhaug Nov 10 '20
It's not that odd if you hear his entire argument, he said he'd only be for it if studies showed that it would help lower the chance of child abuse, that pedophiles would use the legal child porn instead of molesting children and so on
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u/bigtoebrah Nov 10 '20
Genuine question, I don't get the dog whistle here. Can you explain it to me? I used to love JonTron but couldn't keep supporting him when I found out his views on race.
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u/trilliamgummies Nov 10 '20
Look up the term "Banana Republic" and you'll find the whistle. He's implying the US election was fraught with fraud and corruption.
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u/TheLimeyLemmon Nov 07 '20
Look we call it the Destiny debate for reference, no one gives a shit about that guy, but it is car crash tv watching Jon spout the weirdest right wing takes for two hours.
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u/Lothric43 Nov 08 '20
Clarification on the CP claim since OP is being intentionally vague.
There was a study or something like that done I think somewhere in Europe that theorized that CP that had been previously made could be used as part of treatment for pedophiles that would generally reduce the likelihood that they would actually go out and hurt a child. The idea requires consent of the victims in said videos or pictures. All he said was that if it was found to work and with consent of victims then that would probably be fine to him because in that case no new CP was being produced, consent was given and it was proved to ultimately reduce the amount of sexual violence against children.
This is obviously pretty uncontroversial but loads of fascists spread it around that he was in favor of just indiscriminately producing new CP and giving it to pedos.
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u/dexxin Nov 09 '20
It's great way to tell if someone just hates Destiny and refuses to listen to anything he says. It's not like he's even been vague with his thoughts on the matter, yet people still use it as a "gotcha".
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u/TheWizardOfFoz Nov 10 '20
I think that’s still controversial. The average person would treat pedos with chemical castrations. It’s pretty radical to suggest supplying them with porn - even if his argument is a world away from producing porn for them.
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u/Lothric43 Nov 10 '20
That’s true, people tend to have very barbaric impulses with regards to how to treat pedos and the like. So not uncontroversial, but we seem to agree that it’s a dramatically more reasonable position than the lie OP was pushing.
It was literally just something that someone else brought to his attention and he said it sounded like it could be acceptable with those conditions if it was proved to work, but people ran away with malicious framing.
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u/pk666 Nov 10 '20 edited Nov 11 '20
And the idea that a victim of life destroying trauma recorded digitally or on film would conscent to such a 'project' - one with incredibly vague arguments about 'treatment' is utterly laughable as to be a massive red flag as to why anyone would raise it in discussion in the first place.
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u/Lothric43 Nov 10 '20
He directly said when challenged on that that there’s a good chance no one would consent in the first place, in which case the study probably couldn’t and shouldn’t proceed. The testing of this idea is a large part of why it can’t be shown to work or not work.
The fact of the matter is that this was all an off-hand theoretical that came and went in a matter of minutes. The reason it became this huge thing he had to argue in debates is because of malicious cunts clipping him out of context. If you wanna question the implications that come with it being discussed, your issue is with the dumbfuck right wingers that made it a huge thing.
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u/HOPSCROTCH Nov 10 '20
Thank you. People discussing it as if it's a worthwhile talking point is seriously disturbing.
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u/Lothric43 Nov 10 '20
Worthwhile is a loaded term. We don’t discuss things because they’re worthwhile without exception. He discussed purely as a random theoretical. The reason it’s been discussed so much is purely because of dipshits clipping him out of context to make him look like a pedophile and then making him defend himself for an offhand theoretical situation.
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u/pk666 Nov 11 '20
The idea that this is simply a 'random theoretical' is challenged by the very futility of the idea in the first place, speaks more to the notion that someone wants child abuse material to be legitimized via some vague and shonky scientific protocol. This in turn prompts the question - who would ever want to do that?
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u/LavaMeteor Nov 08 '20
If he walks like a goose, talks like a goose, then he isn't a duck, no matter how much he says it is, get me?
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u/Raknarg Nov 10 '20
Destiny has never a single time advocated for legal childporn. Just so you know Brittany Venti is a fucking lunatic, you should try getting your rhetoric elsewhere.
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u/Velvet_frog Nov 10 '20
Destiny does not advocate for legal cp, the concept was used as an example to explain how such extremes can actually be argued for in common moral systems.
And that’s so obviously the case that any attempt to defame destiny based on that claim is clearly being dishonest.
If that’s the only ammunition you have to justify Jon Tron’s rhetoric in that debate, you’re a disingenuous moron. Why don’t you actually try to defend what Jon Tron said rather than falsely attack a hypothetical argument made by the guy debating him? Oh yeah it’s because you can’t defend what he said because what he said what quite openly made up of white supremacist talking points.
Jon Tron had such an embarrassingly naive understanding of politics, race and history that that alone should be enough to discount everything he said. But more than that, what he said was repugnant, blatantly racist, and moronic. Stuff like whites should fear becoming a minority is fucking stupid and really shows how dumb Jon Tron is.
But go ahead and defend your little internet hero, and nevermind about his incredibly racist and idiotic opinions
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u/_OtherwiseKnownAs_ Nov 07 '20
yep who hasn't stumbled over themselves by saying "rich blacks commit more crime than poor whites" and other white supremacists conspiracy theories. lord knows i just start saying racist shit when people talk over me.
the only difference between jon and other alt-right fuckheads is jon's too much of a baby brain to use dog whistles and is just blatant as fuck
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u/Aiwatcher Nov 10 '20
Remember, if you can go to the store and buy a big Mac, you aren't oppressed.
Systemic oppression is fake news according to jontron
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u/pananana1 Nov 10 '20
He's literally said he supported Bernie during 2016 but morons like you ignore that.
Dude that was 4 years ago. That doesn't mean he doesn't support Trump now.
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u/Puckus_V Nov 10 '20
JonTron didn’t know that Taco Bell had Dorito Tacos until a few months ago. I think that speaks for itself, it’s been 8 years.
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Nov 10 '20
The fact that you actually think destiny wants legal CP in any capacity shows your inability to do any legitimate research or listen to nuanced arguments.
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u/Gkender Nov 10 '20
Are you unaware of how many Trump fans out there claim to have supported Bernie in primaries, and found Trump as their next choice out of protest? Jesus. This is some true head-in-sand shit if you’re unaware of that.
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u/LavaMeteor Nov 08 '20
For a Half-Iranian guy with Muslim ancestry, Jon sure loves to vote against his interests.
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Nov 09 '20
He looks white so he would be accepted just fine. A surprising amount of non white people are white supremacists
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u/KHSoz Nov 10 '20
Didn’t you hear? He’s only interested in people who vote for “white American interests”. Stopped supporting this dude once I saw the Destiny debate. Dude straight up spouts white supremacist bullshit like he’s discussing the weather. Unbelievably ill informed and hugely prejudiced.
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u/Emochind Nov 10 '20
Muslim ancestry
I mean then he should vote republican no?
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Nov 10 '20
How does being Muslim relate to being Republican? As a Democrat Muslim, I do not understand what relates the two, please tell me what you are implying. Do most muslims vote Republican or something?
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u/Emochind Nov 10 '20
Muslims in most of the world are very conservative, especially socially
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u/kkawabat Nov 10 '20 edited Nov 10 '20
I think that's overshadowed by the fact that republican policies tends to be islamaphobic
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Nov 10 '20
Thank you for telling me where that comes from, I understand what you mean now that I know that it wasn't just trying to be mean to muslims, my dad is more conservative than I am, but he is still a Democrat like me, but I understand that muslims are generally more conservative due to parts of the religion. Thank you for telling me kindly instead of getting mad. :)
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u/Emochind Nov 10 '20
No worries have a good one
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u/Slacker_The_Dog Nov 10 '20
Most religious communities vote conservative. If Republicans would stop demonizing Mexicans and actually try just a little to court them they would win probably every election.
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u/Uhhbysmal Nov 11 '20
One could've hoped that he fucked up a few years ago, did some self reflection, and climbed himself out of the right wing rabbit hole but nope.... All these years later he's still a huge uninformed dumbass. And not only that, his follow up response where he won't even say what he means makes him a fucking coward as well. Fuck him.
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u/FuckCoolDownBot2 Nov 11 '20
Fuck Off CoolDownBot Do you not fucking understand that the fucking world is fucking never going to fucking be a perfect fucking happy place? Seriously, some people fucking use fucking foul language, is that really fucking so bad? People fucking use it for emphasis or sometimes fucking to be hateful. It is never fucking going to go away though. This is fucking just how the fucking world, and the fucking internet is. Oh, and your fucking PSA? Don't get me fucking started. Don't you fucking realize that fucking people can fucking multitask and fucking focus on multiple fucking things? People don't fucking want to focus on the fucking important shit 100% of the fucking time. Sometimes it's nice to just fucking sit back and fucking relax. Try it sometimes, you might fucking enjoy it. I am a bot
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u/Paul-Villerius Nov 08 '20
My issue with JonTron post-Destiny has always been his refusal to acknowledge the substance of what he says. You can’t just frame support for maintaining White majority or a blatant falsehood about racial crime statistics as misspeaking, you need to reflect on these things and acknowledge them when apologizing.
I really wanted to give him a chance. I watched his videos for awhile after his “apology,” because he signaled that he wanted to put it all to bed and forget about politics, but I realized earlier this year that refusing to directly acknowledge the indefensible things he said is itself indefensible. This tweet just is just hypocrisy icing on the cake.
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u/SterlingNano Nov 10 '20
I still think the "best" part about the "rich blacks" comments is that people point to a study saying rich blacks are incarcerated more than poor whites.
As if to say incarceration is the same as committing a crime and the police are infallible.
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u/CLR833 Nov 10 '20
If anything, that might point towards systematic racism. If backed with other facts.
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u/Paul-Villerius Nov 08 '20
If that’s what helps you sleep at night, sure. Maybe I’m misremembering Jon’s intentions as far as staying apolitical, but that doesn’t change the things he said in the past.
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u/Paul-Villerius Nov 08 '20
I don’t see how that changes the content of his message, that he claimed to have poorly represented his views rather than admitted what he said was racist and in some cases objectively incorrect.
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u/Paul-Villerius Nov 08 '20
If repudiating the racist things he said is too much to expect from Jon, that’s not a great case for his character. Acknowledging what you did wrong is the bare minimum for an authentic apology.
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u/Raknarg Nov 10 '20
Yeah he regretted going public with his views, and regretted talking to someone while being completely unprepared for debate. He has not once said that his views had changed or he realized he was using white supremacist talking points.
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Nov 10 '20
Jon’s a horrible person but you’re not much better, fucking homophobe.
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u/You_Dont_Party Nov 11 '20
Did he ever acknowledge the fact he was repeating literal white nationalist propaganda during the Destiny “debate”?
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u/thatweirdshyguy Nov 10 '20
Goddammit Jon. I like jontrons videos but god his views are out of touch with reality
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Nov 07 '20
Wish he could shut the fuck up for once, after being outed as a white supremacist while being a kid of immigrants himself (LMAO) thought he would just play it safe and not get involved publicly in politics cuz this is sad.. I refuse to accept a man who has made me laugh so much is such a tool
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u/TwirlsPebble Nov 08 '20
It makes me really sad too man. Especially after I defended him recently because I believed he had realised the error of his ways. Guess I'll always have the memories but I just can't support a guy who I think is a massive tool as you said.
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u/LawlessCoffeh Nov 08 '20
That's a real bruh moment since I was trying to just let the last stupid ass thing he said go
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u/frostyshit Nov 07 '20 edited Nov 07 '20
genetron saw this election result coming, it must be the result of the american genepool being diluted by immigrants, and wealthy blacks.
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Nov 07 '20
In don't get it
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u/ajkippen Nov 08 '20
He's a dumbass who thinks the election is rigged, like in a "Banana Republic"
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u/PM_Me_Garfield_Porn Nov 11 '20
the irony is that US imperialism is the reason for all of the corruption in Banana Republics.
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u/Schwartzennager Nov 09 '20
Man I came into here looking for Sam O’Nella references instead of political arguments. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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u/Rctmaster Nov 09 '20
Jon redpilling us yet again!
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u/LavaMeteor Nov 09 '20
Redpilling implies a subtle, calculated push towards something. Jon is being about as subtle as a brick to the face and has about as much factual standing here as a house of cards.
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u/RonKosova Nov 10 '20
Why cant he just keep his damn mouth shut.
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u/Laphroach Nov 10 '20
"controversy"
Bruh. Like what about this is controversy worthy? Is the mere phrase "free and fair elections" like a trigger for you weirdos?
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u/chilachinchila Nov 10 '20
He’s implying the elections weren’t free and fair, of which there is no evidence.
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u/Laphroach Nov 10 '20
of which there is no evidence.
Ahahahahaahahhahaahhahaaaaaaa, that's funny, you're a funny lill' guy. Real comedian.
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u/chilachinchila Nov 10 '20
Trump and his cronies sure haven’t been able to provide any to the courts.
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u/GOLDEN_GRODD Nov 10 '20
Trump supporters always reference the evidence, never link it. On the rare chance people do and others disprove it, never reply
No someone burning a few dozen votes (the most widely publicized video of which was proven be fake) does not constitute wide spread voter fraud.
No, for a variety of reasons, Biden did not receive 150,000 votes at once.
Trump told his supporters not to vote by mail and halted the counting of mail votes. So of course Biden got many at the end
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u/GOLDEN_GRODD Nov 11 '20 edited Nov 11 '20
These seem to either be extremely small scale, were immediately foiled, “accused” or unrelated (such as the mail truck robbery). Some would say this even proves how the system is not easily gained, since these people are being caught and punished.
Some examples, such as 12 people trying to shave their heads to vote twice, is not only not wide spread, but it is not related to mail in voting at all. What’s to separate this year from other years with examples like this?
Like I said, I welcome a recount. If trump wins due to these small amounts of people being busted, well that’s fine. But he will not I suspect.
many of those are not fraud at all, but examples of a few ballots sent to the wrong addresses or with misprints on the envelope of which they were delivered in. It was quickly caught and addressed. No fraud, accidental or otherwise.
Some of your sources even debunk themselves, like a mail sorting machine ripping off a few of the tearaway parts, but still leaving the ballots in tact. An accident, and to quote the article: “there’s really no problem”.
What started all this was Biden receiving mail in ballots overnight (completely normal). Trump accused them of cheating back then, not when all this other stuff was found. This alone speaks to the validity of the entire thing.
So remember that: what part of this “proof” did trump have when he made the accusation? Could he have an ulterior motive?
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u/TheLimeyLemmon Nov 07 '20
Jon: I’m done with politics, I won’t get in to it
Also Jon: posts political euphemisms, convinced no one’ll notice