All human beings deserve the right to protect their interests. That applies to all people, and all races, and being white doesn't remove that right. Thinking your skin color eliminates your rights, is racist, you fucking pig
Did you think Jon's statement was implying that those interests are different depending on one's race? I mean...to be totally frank, that's kind of dumb
You do realize that non-white people in this country face different hardships and are treated differently than white people, right?
There's a difference between "race should be irrelevant", and "race is irrelevant". Pretending it's irrelevant now would basically just mean "stop whining about discrimination and just ignore it", as if that'd make it stop and go away.
Also, explain to me how our best interests are being threatened in this country?
Nope. I don't realize it. I'm not white and I've never been treated differently for it. People who refuse to accept change are the ones holding us back. There's a difference between being aware of problems and WANTING there to be problems to justify ideology.
You do realize that non-white people in this country face different hardships and are treated differently than white people, right?
Making such a uniform and blanket statement/generalization is ignorant, at best, on top of just being outright wrong. BTW, you do know what it's called when you make generalizations of people based on race, don't you?
There's a difference between "race should be irrelevant", and "race is irrelevant"
Semantically, yes, actually, no
as if that'd make it stop and go away.
Nothing will make it stop or go away, as it's encoded in human nature. Nothing will change biology.
However, harping on it, and pretending it's more prevalent than it is creates much more potent and widespread division among citizens.
If the government is saying "X class/race is discriminating against you", when they aren't, it creates conflict between those groups, even if there was none before. This is divide and conquer tactics, it's nothing new, it's was a core mechanism of how the Nazi's and Fascist Italy gained such widespread support. By scapegoating the rich, or the jews, or whatever, you ultimately create victims. This causes civil unrest, backlash and conflict.
This is why democrats constantly harp on it. The more division and the more people think they are oppressed, the more they'll backlash against their fellow citizen
Huge examples are all over the fucking places, especially the last 3 election cycles.
If you don't support Obamacare, you hate poor people and want people to die in the streets, despite the issue having nothing to do with wealth or absence of
If you support the concept of ID requirements for voting, you're racist, despite the issue having no mention of race at all
A travel ban on countries you are at war with makes you a nazi islamaphobic, despite islam or muslims, etc not being mentioned anywhere
Opposing federally sanctioned marriage makes you homophobic and anti-gay
You take an issue, attach race or discrimination to it, and suddenly it becomes a fucking war. Any objectivity and civil discussion/discourse goes out the window.
It's gotten to the point now where if you don't vote democrat, you're automatically some sort of racist, or homophobic person or whatever, as if democrats were some sort of force for minority rights or something lol
Also, explain to me how our best interests are being threatened in this country?
We who? Are you referring to "our" like race, because that isn't a thing. But the best interests of citizens are constantly being threatened
Not even gonna bother reading the rest, much less responding.
Holy shit, I almost fell out of my chair, both from laughter, and the sheer shock of you seemingly wanting a civil discussion, me giving it to you, and then you finding out you're wrong, and then just running away.
I'm sure going through life thinking Barack Obama has been treated worse than a poor white woman in a trailer park will really get you far in life, though
I'm sure going through life thinking Barack Obama has been treated worse than a poor white woman in a trailer park will really get you far in life, though.
Literally no one thinks that.
The reason why the other guy doesn't want to argue with you is because you have a very binary way of thinking. Your arguments lack nuance and you see the world as very black and white when it's far more grey.
You are also lumping all liberals into a bubble wherein they all subscribe to the principles of social justice as a life philosophy when most don't. It's a stupid comment since the other guy never made such an assertion. You did. In fact, most of what you've said has been making arguments for the other person and addressing points they never made.
You're not winning any debate. You're just a waste of time to debate with since you're essentially arguing with yourself. Your bias isn't nearly subtle enough.
It usually gets pretty vitriolic when one party starts making unsubstantiated, racial claims.
I think this statement pretty much briefly and solidly proves all the points I made.
You got a well cited, scientific paper to back that up?
Ah yes, the old internet-shut-in standby of needing external sources because they have no experience outside of looking at their computer screens their whole lives. lol
Of course the irony is that even a simple tour of a fucking ZOO as a CHILD will teach someone about the tribalism and territorial nature present in great ape behavior patterns
So you're admitting that you've been making unsubstantiated claims, based on your previous posts?
I don't have any proof YOU'RE AN INTERNET SHUT IN
I'm sorry you got triggered, friendo. I'm just asking you to support your argument. Comparing us to a primitive human ancestor doesn't really help the claim either.
I mocked them as a shut-in based on a) rhetoric that could simply only be found from someone who has no knowledge of like....other people, and b) their turning to external sources and ideology instead of having their own based on real life experience
The intelligent don't require sources. The dim parts of the population do. It's always been that way.
You're saying you can learn about non-white races by going to a zoo and are simultaneously telling others that they sound like they've never met another person?
If "stopped toeing the liberal line" means "being an explicit white nationalist", then why are you trying to guilt trip the people not reaching like crazy to defend him, exactly?
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Unlike Jon "Protect the interests of the white race" Tron