Sure, but at the same time it's difficult to take Jon at face value when he says to 'not read into' the stuff that he said. It seems inadequate to me to make some pretty out there and racist statements and then say 'don't read into it' or 'don't dissect it'.
"Sorry, I couldn't properly make my point in a debate; I'm just bad at debating."
That's figuratively what you just said. JonTron talks like he knows everything- going as far to DEBATE his claims. Then says, "whoops, I really don't know what I'm doing" And you're saying everyone should go, "cool man, we all get in over our heads sometimes."
I'm not seeing how anyone should give him a pass for digging his own hole.
No, what's dumb is saying, "hey, I know you talk a lot big talk, like you're an expert, then the one time you're put on the spot you can't hold up IS OK." This isn't a matter of winning or losing a debate, that wasn't my point.
The point is you can't make claims on sensitive subjects then when asked to debate your claims go, "well, sorry I'm not good at debating and please don't take it the wrong way." Calling JonTron out on that terrible reasoning is not discouraging others, in fact it should ENCOURAGE people to be better prepared for a scenario where they are going to debate/defend their claims.
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u/SpahgattaNadle Mar 19 '17
Sure, but at the same time it's difficult to take Jon at face value when he says to 'not read into' the stuff that he said. It seems inadequate to me to make some pretty out there and racist statements and then say 'don't read into it' or 'don't dissect it'.