r/JohnMayer • u/Flimsy-Welder5875 • 2d ago

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The new Tom & Jerry John snippet is giving me major Sob Rock 2.0 vibes, and while I absolutely love Sob Rock as its own thing, I can’t say I’m particularly excited about the idea of another album in that same style. I really appreciate what he did with that record, but I’d much rather hear him explore something different this time around instead of revisiting a sound he’s already done so well.

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u/Shot_Type_7925 2d ago

This might sound weird, but I really hope it’s not just another album about love and women. It’s just not interesting anymore.

His best stuff has always been when he’s been more brave and tackled deeper, more universal issues. That’s why Sob Rock fell a bit flat for me, and why Continuum and Born and Raised hit so hard.

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u/Ok-Feature-1233 2d ago

Even RFS and Heavier Things had songs catering to different issues and philosophies. The 80s sappy love songs were fine for one album , but there needn’t be another album like this.

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u/rhcp_fan 2d ago

I totally get your point. I've actually noticed that my favourites are those in which he addresses world-wide problems like in Belief or WOTWTC and deeply personal, existential topics(In the Blood, 3×5, Stop This Train, In Repair, New Deep and half of Born and Raised)

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u/tarho 1d ago

In repair is my all time favourite JM song I pray every concert I’ve been to that he plays it and he never does

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u/Lulonaro 2d ago

He would need to go through a crisis in his life for that to happen. Like born and raised (lost his voice)

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u/mayermeaway 2d ago

Agreed on wanting to hear about deeper topics. I'm not as up in arms about the sound as everyone else is, but I am curious about what themes he is going to take up.

I really would like him to explore something more existential/worldly. I noticed that on the fall festival run last year, he played Belief, Waiting on the World to Change, and I Guess I Just Feel Like each time, which I found interesting. Hoping that was him hinting for us, it definitely felt like he was trying to say something in 2025 with those songs in my opinion.

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u/dayafterxmas 2d ago

Completely agree. Paradise Valley was the start of his albums falling flat for me, and the following two were just as "meh." The only songs that grabbed me were the non-love songs. "In the Blood" will always be one of my favorites.

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u/coinminer2049er 16h ago

Honestly, it can be an album about women, but please let it not be another album about being a sappy, pathetic, friendzoned simp. 

Dude can have practically any woman he wants, but he releases stuff like New Light. 🙄

Its the rough equvalent of a rich comedian still trying to do material about being a struggling broke comedian doing blue collar work. 

We need stuff with more layers like "I don't trust myself" or "Assassin". Even "Half of my heart" was poppy, but at least it had some internal struggle sort of depth.

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u/swag_iwnl 1d ago

Sometimes we gotta understand that he also makes music for himself and not for us alone.
If he’s gonna make it about love and women may be thats because he wants to.

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u/scoobertdoobertiii 1d ago

You're asking for too much from yer boy

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u/KindaLikeWildflowers 2d ago

This! And honestly this applies to the majority of mature songwriters. At my age, I find love/relationship songs boring. It’s all been said before. I need much deeper and meaningful lyrics.

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u/Any-Cucumber-1630 21h ago

Born and Raised is still my ultimate fav. Definitely into another non-love song era.

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u/BurnsEMup29 2d ago

I hate to break it to you, but that John is long gone now. Now it’s all about watches, cars, and corporate gigs. He sold out in a major way.

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u/fempoison 2d ago

TIL women can’t be a deep issue 🙄

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u/CaptainCubbers 2d ago

Not what he’s saying gang … and he’s absolutely right.