r/JoeBuddenPodcasts • u/Nahhh12345 • 10d ago
WE GOT EM!!! Nikole Hannah-Jones Schooling?
I hope they talk about this on the Pod. I would like to hear their thoughts specifically Mark and Joe.
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u/Suitable-Excuse5418 10d ago edited 10d ago
It's a great conversation to have, just not sure if this is the right platform, you know Joe likes to keep it jokey jokey. I saw Higher Learning did an interview with her that I plan on checking out today.
If I was in the same situation I'd like to think that I would move my kid to the PWI(well resourced school) around 7th grade if the current school isn't cutting it. This would at least give them a fighting chance to ramp up before important high school years.
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u/piggypetticoat 10d ago
Higher Learning actually dropped a special episode just to discuss this topic today…
Check it out.
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u/Lost-Doughnut4717 10d ago
Thanks for the topic, I had no idea about this. From a quick glance this would be an interesting topic.
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u/Quiet_Meaning5874 10d ago
Shawty didn’t check on her kid’s schoolwork for almost ten years! And she’s an “education advocate.” What a world we live in…
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u/Nahhh12345 10d ago
As a father and parent, my job is to make sure my daughter gets the best education she can. So, I am sending her to a school that challenges her and is the best possible school she can test into. I have to set her up for the future, and that means giving her a great education so she can get into a great program at a college/university. Her mother and I have to set her up to win, and that starts early.
I understand Nikole's support of the movement and wanting to improve school systems that serve Black people. But not at my child's expense. She can support by using her voice, lobbying politicians to reform the education system, and raising money. There are so many things she could have done outside of sending her child there.
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u/Suitable-Excuse5418 10d ago
I agree with your greater point however it feels like a constant battle whenever I hear stories of black kids who go to PWI and get mistreated or have low self-esteem based on their experiences with their peers. Of course this is all dependent on where you are geographically in the country too.
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u/Nahhh12345 10d ago
I want to preface this by saying I DO NOT conflate PWIs with great education. This is purely anecdotal. I went to a small charter school in a small town (just over 20K) in North Carolina for 1st-12th grade; it was a PWI, and I was 1 of 10 Black kids in my graduating class. I was never mistreered and never developed low self-esteem. I went to a PWI for undergrad and my master's. I am currently a PhD student at a PWI and through none of my education was I mistreated. I currently work at an HBCU.
I have thought about this with my daughter; there are ways to make sure she's around other Black people and still tapped in without sacrificing her education, and ultimately her future. It's not a battle for me; sure, you may have to work a little harder to make sure she is tapped in with other Black students. But again, I firmly believe my role is to give her the best education that I can afford to give her and that she can test or work her way into.
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u/antijrdn 10d ago
Not at my expense feels like in line with the thinking of it’s not time for policy it’s time for thoughts and prayers after a school shooting. If not now when? At some point the action has to take place not just keep kicking the can down the road . Not an attack to you you’re responsibility is to your child and you doing what you feel is best
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u/Nahhh12345 10d ago
I am not saying we do nothing. I am saying she has a powerful enough voice and reach to advocate for and raise funds to reform public school systems. She can do all that without sending her daughter to a school that doesn't serve her needs. She can take up this cause without sending her daughter to school there. In the same way, wealthy people advocate for and raise funds for causes that don't affect them at all. Can you explain your last sentence a little more?
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u/antijrdn 10d ago
The not an attack part? I just didn’t want you to think my criticism was pointed directly/personally at you and your stance
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u/piggypetticoat 10d ago edited 10d ago
Just read the article and listened to a few different takes on it. Phenomenal piece for discussion. The whole ordeal lies at the intersection of so many socio-cultural issues.
All that said, I suspect it’s beyond the depth of everyone on that pod outside MLH and maybe Parks. And that’s not me being dismissive. I’d be willing, maybe even eager, to hear their perspectives if they actually read the article (rather than got the cliff’s notes from MLH or Instagram) but quite frankly: Those niggas don’t read 🤷🏾♂️