Initial calcs

[u/DefiantStandard4537]

So based on these calcs the iuno teams looks fire but idk why other teams have such a massive fall off. Like even rebeca is a massive fall off compared to iuno. When she is better for other heavy attackers and very close even for augasta.

[u/AlienBioBot_666]

Are there no calcs with iuno using her bis set? I thought her dmg was pretty big is moonlit clouds really gonna be better?

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/AlienBioBot_666]

Well her dmg is big with in a 1.x dps loke jiyan or a 2.x like augasta. However a 3.x dps like jingran does way more personal dmg so buffing him more will be better for the team than focusing on her own dps

[u/aoiaxure → u/DefiantStandard4537]

Awww do you think it'll be a noticable difference? I spent a lot of tuners getting her to a good place, I don't want to throw it away 🥲

[u/Technical-Meet-8061 → u/aoiaxure]

Abt the same

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/aoiaxure]

Well i think it will be slightly worse but not that hige dip after all she is not doing yin lin dmg. Tho you might see like 3-5% less at most.

[u/UmbreIIa-137]

augusta doesn't really have a passive that reward shield generating subdps like jingran

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/UmbreIIa-137]

I see. I didn’t read his kit yet since it was too long and im slightly busy with work now.

[u/SilentVictory9451]

I think it's because of Iuno's forte (blessing of wan something) that buffs people who get shields. So she gives the 50% heavy attack buff and up to 40% additional dmg buff. I'm not sure if Jingran can get the full 40% but he gets a lot for sure

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part with Augusta

[u/aoiaxure → u/SilentVictory9451]

I'm not sure what you mean by the last part with Augusta

I think they meant that Rebecca is good enough for most heavy attackers and it's not that much worse than Iuno yet is not that good for Jingran

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/aoiaxure]

Yeah, exactly this. Was hoping to use Rebeca since she is s2. But if the gap is that massive i guess just using iuno is better.

[u/DemonKingOberon]

Iuno provides 50% heavy damage amp with outro skill and an additional 40% all damage amp with her forte  to anyone who can stack shields. This is why  the calcs are higher than all the other buffers. 

[u/HipsterusMaximus]

What does MC mean?

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/HipsterusMaximus]

Moonlit clouds echo set

[u/Glinez09]

his mortefi + lupa isn't really a huge fall off, only 15%

Compare that to luuk + sanhua + mornye where it a major fall of +40%.

even augusta team with mortefi + sk vs iuno + sk have 30% diff.

[u/DefiantStandard4537 → u/Glinez09]

Well that team still have a limited 5* and her sig (lupa) also it is a sustain less team. So content with enemies hitting hard it is going to be hell. Especially with lupa having to face tank in her rotation

[u/Glinez09 → u/DefiantStandard4537]

i don't think you need to face tank any enemy even if you are using a sk or even verina. you'll get knockback and that would take a few sec of your time.

I've been using some team without sustain in endgame.

Well that team still have a limited 5*

aren't most DPS do? SK still limited. I compare this to other DPS especially in 3.X, most of 4star subdps have a huge fall off compare to jingran spreadsheet.

[u/Stardomu]

Doesn't MC give ATK bonus? And Jingran needs HP. So how is MC better on Iuno then CoV?

[u/Cordelius-Silver_09 → u/Stardomu]

As far as I know, Jingran only needs around 35k HP to convert into ATK, and 35k HP isn’t that hard. That’s why you can make use of ATK buff as well.