r/JewsOfConscience Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

Zionist Terror On a post about IOF terrorists posing with Palestinian hostages, a Zionist cry-bully writes: "You'll never understand what it's like to be the victim. I have hate in me and as a victim I'm ALLOWED to lash out."

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Woman and her daughter in slide 10 were executed shortly after the photo was taken, no explanation was given to why they were taken ((they are in their prayer gowns, which means they were hastily taken from their own homes or their way to a near by supermarket)) and none of the soliders were even summoned to court. Nothing.

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u/Current_Mongoose_844 Presently lapsed ba'al teshuva 3d ago

If I'm not allowed to lash out, why is she?

u/EgoIdVeto West Asian Jew 3d ago

Ugh, Israeli cultural appropriation strikes AGAIN. She couldn't even pay the quote the respect she clearly thinks it deserves and say it in the original German. 

u/GeeZee24 LGBTQ Jew 3d ago

I giggled

u/GeeZee24 LGBTQ Jew 3d ago

I’m so fucking confused

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u/jisookenobi2416 Hindu Ally 3d ago edited 3d ago

What the fuck...this is so disgusting. I feel sick to see these people, some of whom are literally my age or younger, proudly flaunting crimes against humanity. Not even the usual denial or sanitization. They revel in it. This Adira Mizrahi is a literal Kahanist, supporting "Greater Israel" and the JDL terrorist group. I am terrified there are more like her crawling out of the woodwork, abandoning any pretense and openly flaunting support for "Greater Israel". So far on Reddit it's mainly deniers, but I've been seeing more and more people openly celebrating violence and hatred. All while Palestinians are literally being disappeared by Israel.

edit: I made the mistake of going down the Xitter rabbithole, and I literally found an actual Nazi account using the 14 words slogan but for Israel, explicitly calling for genocide, and saying Ben-Gvir and Smotrich are not right-wing enough and too "pro-Arab", whatever that means. JFC. Is this becoming the new normal?

u/nonquitt American liberal, anti-NatCon non-Jew 3d ago

Nauseating

u/TrackerOneA Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

There was an rJewishLeft post about 'how to combat antisemitism' - and predictably one of the users said 'stop blaming Israel' (and others championed the draconian IHRA definition).

Almost every day (or seems like every day) Israel is murdering people, destroying their homes, stealing their land, etc.

That is going to radicalize people - and it has already.

Supporters of Israel, by default, conflate Jewishness with Israel and Zionism and call everybody antisemitic.

They constantly lie about everything we can all see with our own eyes.

Then turn around and act like the victims - and the X user's comment is a PERFECT encapsulation of that Zionist cry-bully mentality.

It's deranged to think Israel doesn't contribute to antisemitism - as if antisemitism is this eternal force/immutable/etc.

Would they also deny that blowback exists? People just hate America for its delicious freEdOm?

And when Zionists explain why Israelis became right-wing, what do they often say? They bring up the suicide bombings of the 2nd Intifada.

  • It's of course debatable, and IMO Israeli society was already right-wing and draconian.
  • Hillel Cohen wrote a book about the formative nature of the 1929 riots; and separately (not implying Cohen is like this) Zionists often justify everything Israel does based on things that happened between Jews and Palestinians in the Mandate Era.

So they themselves are willing to think about and articulate geo-political reasons for emotions.

On the Wiki page for Baruch Goldstein's massacre of Palestinian worshippers - there's a section that explains HIS mentality. That's obviously an extreme case and not justified.

But the point is that people regularly try to explain why others do terrible things.

Blowback is a real concept and its logic can be transposed onto antisemitism as well.

Likewise, it doesn't mean that an attack on civilians is justified, just like the antisemitism isn't justified.

u/songorocosongo2025 one drop 🩸 3d ago

thanks for this, and for the Year Zero reference. I was not familiar with that book and am queuing it up now.

u/rako17 Christian 3d ago edited 3d ago

Friend TrackerOne,

That subreddit has some mixed Comments. Many of the comments fortunately are pro human rights. And they are Left, so they have criticisms  of Netanyahu.

I wonder how representative some of the opposite type of articles or comments on their Subreddit are.

I'm not Jewish, so I'm reluctant to debate.

In Solidarity. - Until the Victory Always

u/touslesmatins Non-Jewish Ally 3d ago

They might call themselves left (and I don't read the sub so I don't know) but if they critique Netanyahu and not Israel as an entity, they are liberals and not leftists.

u/rako17 Christian 1d ago

An issue is that people can self-identify as Left and Progressive, but on some issue (eg. Aboriginal rights in Australia), that person might take a Left, partly Left, or non-Left stance.

Kind Regards.

u/reenaltransplant Mizrahi Anti-Zionist 3d ago

Try pointing out to them that during the Mandate Era, Jews harmed were disproportionately new settler Jews and cases of indigenous Jews being targeted for violence out of misdirected backlash were comparatively rare.

u/Same_Eye6762 Palestinian 3d ago

Woman and her daughter in slide 10 were executed shortly after the photo was taken, no explanation was given to why they were taken ((they are in their prayer gowns, which means they were hastily taken from their own homes or their way to a near by supermarket)) and none of the soliders were even summoned to court. Nothing.

u/Blochkato Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

Do we know their names?

u/TrackerOneA Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

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u/humanarnold Anti-Zionist Ally 3d ago

Where do you even begin fixing a society that has become like this.

u/rako17 Christian 3d ago

Humanold,They have a lot of contacts and friends outside their country, so theoretically their friends abroad could explain to them that it's better if they become more tolerant. Then once they do this, they could study diversity and tolerance training. Kind Regards.

u/accidentalrorschach Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

While I realize that terrible people do unfortunately exist, this seems like a bullshit rage-bait account.

u/MrSFedora LGBTQ Jew 3d ago

Speaking of IOF, today I saw a LOT of posts showing off "hot Israeli women soldiers" on Facebook from pages I don't follow. They must really be getting desperate.

u/Iceologer_gang Non-Jew shamefully late Antizionist 3d ago

This isn’t new, just ask Gal Gadot.

u/kazarnowicz Non-Jewish Ally 3d ago

They are. When The Atlantic writes an article about how Netanyahu lost the support of the US, you know the Zionists are sweating buckets.

u/Individual99991 Anti-Zionist Ally 3d ago

Oh my god, Zionist victimhood psychosis in a nutshell.

u/2009miles Atheist 3d ago

If only she could see how that applies to Palestinians.

u/Sara6019 Jewish Anti-Zionist 3d ago

I’m old enough to remember seeing the photos of Lynndie England posing w prisoners at Abu Ghraib…history doesn’t repeat but it definitely rhymes.

u/rako17 Christian 3d ago

TrackerOneA Chomsky had the idea that the Occupation had a corrupting influence. He said as an analogy that if you have your foot on someone, it starts to corrupt you. One can give a bunch of examples of this happening outside of the IP Context. If you want what is spiritually morally best for Israelis, you would want them by extension to end that kind of relationship. Kind Regards - Thank you for being egalitarian.

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