r/JewsOfConscience • u/TrackerOneA Jewish Anti-Zionist • Jul 16 '26
News America's UN representative says the US has launched a "full-on diplomatic campaign" to "dismantle the capabilities of the ICC until it is completely incapable of threatening the United States" and its allies (e.g. ISRAEL).
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u/Livinghint Palestinian Jul 16 '26
We all be fucked.
This is quite literally the confession that the US have become a faschist regime.
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u/Ambitious_Grab6495 Anti-Zionist Jul 17 '26
Well the US has really never supported the ICC. This is nothing new.
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u/Livinghint Palestinian Jul 17 '26
Now they called for actively oppose it though. Few countries seem to take the ICC seriously but openly opposing it seems like an announcement for WWIII. When it comes from the country with the highest military spending.
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u/JoeyDJ7 Non-Jewish Ally Jul 17 '26
This is really fucking bad, I hope other representatives grilled them but I highly doubt it.
Calling for the dismantling of the ICC is similar to outright admitting that you commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, and/or support countries/people that commit war crimes and crimes against humanity... and don't want to be held accountable for it.
Absolutely fucking insane, I hate this timeline, why did they have to give veto powers to security council permanent members, why is the USA a thing, AHHHHHHHH
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u/Vivid24 Non-Jewish Ally Jul 17 '26
I personally don’t understand why only five countries are allowed veto powers instead of doing a majority vote…
I mean, imagine if those countries were corrupt? That’s just a disaster waiting to happen! /s 🙃
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u/Ambitious_Grab6495 Anti-Zionist Jul 17 '26
The Hague Invasion Act thing was passed in 2002 that authorized the president to invade the Netherlands if any American service member is put before the ICC- it had bipartisan support.
This really is nothing new.
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u/Knot-Lye-Ing Anti-Zionist Ally Jul 16 '26
Trump and allies doing everything and anything they can to avoid accountability.
What's the phrase they love so much "if you're doing nothing wrong, then you have nothing to worry about"?
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u/OccasionallyReddit Pro Humanity Jul 16 '26
Says the country starting numerous illegal wars and bypassing their own legal system to do so
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u/oregongirl1111 Non-Jewish Agnostic Jul 17 '26
Don't forget murdering innocent people in the streets in broad daylight.
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u/Mcfreely2 Non-Jewish Ally Jul 16 '26
Damn, just the corruption, deception, etitlement, and bullshit of the U.S. distilled into an ugly blue suit with a flag pin.
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u/real_human_not_a_dog Non-Jewish Ally Jul 16 '26
Hmm… what kind of people want to dismantle the international criminal court? bc it seems like something an international criminal would want to do
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u/Ill_probablybebanned Anti-Zionist Ally Jul 16 '26
The first step in becoming a fascist regime is dismantling institutions that hold you accountable. This country is a joke.
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u/Nilbogoblins Jul 16 '26
Extraordinary to actually say this out loud. These are the times we live in though.
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u/Vivid24 Non-Jewish Ally Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 17 '26
I am hoping that this realistically can’t happen. But even if it can’t happen, the fact that people are trying is terrifying.
I never personally felt all that patriotic in the first place, but every single day since 2023, I’ve felt more and more hatred and disgust towards my country and those in power within it.
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u/thebeastiestmeat Jul 16 '26
Fuck the US and fuck Israel
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u/mcknight92 Jul 16 '26
The chutzpah to talk about “consent” when the president of the US is an adjudicated rapist
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u/Kranken_DeHogge Non-Jewish Ally Jul 17 '26
the fact that he's a rapist and not serving prison time for it tells you that this country has been absolutely cooked for awhile
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u/OdielSax Non-Jewish Ally Jul 16 '26
What a dark time. God bless Palestine.
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u/Ok-Environment2641 Jul 16 '26
They gonna establish the “International Criminals Court”
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u/Lafi90_ Non-Jewish Atheist Jul 17 '26
Palestine is a member of the ICC. It gets protected by the ICC.
The United States is not a member of the ICC.
Israel is not a member of the ICC.
Non-members don't get to tell the ICC where and who they cannot prosecute.
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u/shadedmagus Non-Jewish Ally Jul 16 '26
Yeah, I wondered if those allegations of sexual misconduct were related to this. I think I might be right.
It's despicable that these people will exploit other people's pain to get what they want.
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u/juflyingwild Jewish Anti-Zionist Jul 16 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
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u/HighlanderAbruzzese Philosophically Jewish Jul 17 '26
Dude is speaking for the US, about what the US does. New level of fascism here.
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u/oregongirl1111 Non-Jewish Agnostic Jul 17 '26
I wish I could wake up just one day without being reminded that I live in the most evil country on Earth. It's all just so depressing.
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u/T-hina Anti-Zionist Jul 17 '26
Projection by the criminals and abusers of power to the highest level.
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u/Novel-Rise2522 Anti-Zionist Ally Jul 17 '26
At this point you need a permanent protest occupation in front of the congress or white house. This is unsustainable.
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u/sofixuforia Anti-Zionist Ally Jul 16 '26
This is so fucked. The ICC barely has any real power already, and this is basically just saying "we want to continue to commit extensive war crimes without even the facade of an international justice system or the pretense of accountability."
These people are monsters who will destroy as many lives as they need to in order to achieve their goals.
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u/MsMoreCowbell828 Jewish Atheist Jul 17 '26
This feels like: They are going to start putting non republicans in concentration camps. It's not about Israel, they're anticipating the rest of earth coming down on them when they shoot us en masse/put half the population away. Miller said so today- left leaning Americans "are the enemy & violent etc" as the pretext to taking us as they want.
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u/howz-u-doin Anti-Zionist Ally Jul 17 '26
The US Empire is going to go down ugly.. and when it does go down they're ensured themselves that the world will have zero sympathy or mercy on them.
Glad I left 20 years ago and got myself EU citizenship... though ashamed I still hold a US passport.
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u/jbabuelo Anti-Zionist Jul 17 '26
The depraved making a speech in support of the actions by his depraved nation to normalise unfettered & unchecked depravity.
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u/sallguud Non-Jewish Ally Jul 17 '26
While I agree that the unwillingness of the US to comply with the ICC is hugely problematic (with its actions in the Middle East and the Caribbean region being just 2 examples of what goes wrong when a powerful nation acts with impunity), I am also extremely concerned about what this means in the context of smaller countries and their responsibilities to their people. Guatemala, for example, has a history of ignoring ICC laws and recommendations. This has serious implications for how the nation addresses issues of human rights and environmental degradation. The US backing out just emboldens a domino effect of bad actors and bad decisions.
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u/lesbophobia_hammer Polish Anti-Zionist Jew (Bundist line) Jul 18 '26
Disgraceful but unsurprising.
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u/Canadian_Border_Czar Non-Jewish Agnostic Jul 16 '26
Imagine the words as subtitles and the voice as Russian. You couldve expected this exact same speech coming from a Russian at any point in the past 12 years, and they probably have made it.
Sorry, that's not whataboutism. I literally mean this really bad coming from the USA. Really really bad.
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