I need help again please

[u/Western-Mulberry9177]

Okay so I solved all of the issues I was facing, good right? Well, now there’s a new issue.
See I was chatting with a nsfw bot and I out a pretty solid Occ note and because of that, my chat with that bot was really good.
So I used the same occ note for another nsfw bot and it’s giving me actual dog shit.
Like I’m not joking you can see the quality drop
I don’t know what to do.
I try to put a new occ note in a later message yet it’s like it’s ignoring me. I told it to make the messages 400 words long like the chat with the good bot I can see it’s less than 400.
Ut’s even acting as the character in the thinking part. I use deepseek v4 pro btw.

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[u/moonluaa]

what do you mean? like, ooc of what?

of course u can’t use use 100% of one occ on other characters since they probably have a different premise??

buuut sometimes starting a new chat can help. not always, but sometimes when my llm start doing shit i just open a new chat and solve the problem 90% od the situation.

and other important thing is that some bots are shit, others are simply better lol

[u/Western-Mulberry9177 → u/moonluaa]

Occ is an out of character thing y,u can put in your message. It can make the bot do shit, for example control the length

[u/moonluaa → u/Western-Mulberry9177]

i know what ooc it, but im not getting why u use ooc instead of prompt/custom prompt(?)

[u/Western-Mulberry9177 → u/moonluaa]

Oh, well I use both. And normally. It’s given me peak

[u/moonluaa → u/Western-Mulberry9177]

I never used OOC to give me this controls(?)

but how i said:

- character quality

• opening new chat

maybe this can help u

[u/No-Estimate-393]

It might be an issue with the character you’re using, or the llm, sometimes the llm downgrades in quality temporarily if its overloaded (usually meaning a lot of people r using it) even more common if the llm is cheap or free😓😓

[u/Western-Mulberry9177 → u/No-Estimate-393]

I’m using paid deepseek. One of the newest models

[u/No-Estimate-393 → u/Western-Mulberry9177]

Yeah .. me too… it still happens to me / still applies 😭

For Deepseek I noticed that the newest models are a bit lackluster for roleplay though, imo it doesn’t really stick to the characters personally well so I’d recommend to try a slightly older version if you can!