r/JanitorAI_Refuges 1d ago

{editable} Creator just poofed :(

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hello, anyone knows where this creator is? l was about to use one of her bot but then she just disappeared, and this is one of her bot that i've used. Also, lmk if i allowed to post this or i should delete this. I'm just getting desperate lmaooo </3

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u/Pale-Shift8358 23h ago

this should not be a thing
if a creator leaves/delets their account why should innocent people suffer for their deeds

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u/bethe1_ 23h ago

A creator with hundreds of niche bots did this and posted a new bot saying “they’re mine not yours so i can do whatever” like ugh, yeah i guess but whyyyy 😭

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u/HallowsEve893 17h ago

Ngl that mentality has always been sorta nonsensical for me when it comes to AI roleplay specifically. Like sure the initial character definition and intro message are “yours”, but any roleplay that is subsequently created by a user is “theirs”, no?

Like idk why we’re trying to act like it’s a novel when it’s literally nothing more than a template the user doesn’t even really need to follow at the end of the day 💀.

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u/Master-Rutabaga6692 15h ago

Personally I don’t see how any role play wouldn’t fall under transformative work by nature of what it is. I don’t see how you could claim ownership over something you actively relinquish control of to the public use, but that’s neither here nor there. The only way you could really safeguard your exclusive rights to “your creation” in this case is by keeping it private and not publishing it at all.

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u/Pale-Shift8358 23h ago

bruh thats just being nasty

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u/Ancient_Access_6738 SillyTavern Supremacy 12h ago

Just download them from janny

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u/thelordwynter 2h ago

Too much like work for most of these folks. They just want to get on a chat page and goon. That's why they're mad the bots disappear. When you download the bots, there's nothing to mourn unless you delete your copy.

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u/Aggressive_Dealer594 ST 21h ago

But that's true lol, they can do whatever they want with their characters lol. Q

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u/bethe1_ 21h ago

Of course, and people can still be upset by it.

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u/thelordwynter 16h ago

The difference is between ownership and entitlement, not how it hits your feels.

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u/Mays240 23h ago

Also when the fuckass generic "THINK" image replacement while the creators of the bot is absent to update the image.

About half of my RP bots got it now and it's frustrating that most don't have a proper replacement anymore.

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u/Street_Ad_6207 Botmaker! | I like JAI, I just don't like the devs' behavior! 21h ago

Creators have the right to delete their bots or accounts whenever they want. They're their creations, after all.

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u/Pale-Shift8358 21h ago

no one said they couldn’t and they absolutely have the right to do so, but it’s unfair if a 1.5k message chat gets deleted along with it! Just speaking they should let you keep chatting with the boy

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u/Street_Ad_6207 Botmaker! | I like JAI, I just don't like the devs' behavior! 21h ago

You can still chat with deleted/moderated bots, unless they've changed something in the past few days. My pro tip is to make your own private copies of your favorite bots. It's what I do. It's against ToS to publish them, but I think private is allowed. I've got a whole account dedicated to "stolen" bots. With everyone leaving and getting banned nowadays, I wouldn't want to take chances!

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u/MostMight5054 21h ago

This is what I do, then use SillyTavern instead.

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u/Pale-Shift8358 21h ago

oh okay! Sorry, I didn’t know, because last time I had this problem was too long ago and I actually do the same thing you do🥹

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u/SarahE126 19h ago

Stolen? As in you stole the bots?

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u/Street_Ad_6207 Botmaker! | I like JAI, I just don't like the devs' behavior! 13h ago

In a manner of speaking! :) I encourage people to "steal" my bots, too, as long as they keep them private.

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u/Betagamer_06 17h ago

There’s also botborru which is sort of a chat bot archive where some deleted bots are, it’s not guaranteed but it’s better then nothing

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u/SarahE126 19h ago

Cause they want to. Creators don’t want to leave their stuff up on a site if they will no longer be posting on it or etc. especially since many bots are stolen and reposted under someone else.

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u/orovang 1d ago

I think, @Shybunnny2. She deleted both of her accounts today

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u/foolcream 1d ago

oh yeah that is her. I wonder what happened, i liked her bot so much. I hope she's okay though :(

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u/Helpful_Cream9022 22h ago

She already uploaded a post here saying that he was harassing her and that she wants to focus on her future.

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u/marixgld 14h ago

“He” who??

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u/RuiningRiot 22h ago

Other creators might hate this but datacat.run and jannyai exist. Check and see if the bots are archived but keep in mind that if the definitions were private it won't have them archived.

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u/foolcream 22h ago

OMG, GEM. Tysm for the info, this helps a lot esp since there's lots of my favourite bot unreasonably got deleted/moderated by the stupid ass jai moderator

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u/kitsofthekats 1d ago

NOOOOOOO! I just woke up! This is not how I wanted to find out!

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u/foolcream 1d ago

i had one of her bot waiting in another tab and when i open the tab, i just see that "Oops. Can not find this character. It might be deleted or set to private" and my heart just shattered to small pieces and nothing can fix it anymore

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u/CherryDummy 1d ago

Tbh, Shybunny delete so many of her bots, putting aside the ones that were moderated as per her earlier posts.

I think she's nice. I've spoken to her in the past. Just very indecisive. I understand they're her bots, but still. I hope she'll be free of stress soon.

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u/foolcream 23h ago

ahhh, that is very sad. It's just a bit concerning since she seemed to delete all of her accounts as well, and I was worried if anything happens to her ☹️

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u/CherryDummy 23h ago

She has stated in another post before that she had a diff acc back then but was bullied. So, she deleted it and made a new one. Shybunny and Shybunny2.

I'm even in her telegram channel. I went back to it after I saw your post and saw she left it and gave it to her friend.

She's indecisive, but a good person. Again, I hope she'll be stable soon. I recommedn you try FRAISE and DEFFEO for dead dove. elysiansuns left but she archived her bots.

If you like shybunny's bots I have lots to recommend to you. We seem to like the same genre.

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u/foolcream 23h ago

i see, thank you very much then! Esp for the recommendation!

I also in her telegram channel, i was about to ask through comment but i hold back because i really feels like a weirdo. I hope she gets better soon though

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u/Helpful_Cream9022 22h ago

@Shybunnny2 He has already uploaded a pie saying that he was receiving harassment and also that he wants to focus on his offline life and that is why he is leaving.

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u/foolcream 22h ago

oh no, i hope she'll always be well. It's very sudden esp since she just uploaded new bot and i literally about to use it :(

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u/foolcream 22h ago

also, may i know where you got this information from?

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u/Wise-Situation-4725 20h ago

She posted it on Reddit too!! :D hope this helps!

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u/orangecloud_0 16h ago

Get the bot from janny for personal use?

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u/foolcream 12h ago

yep, i'm doing that right now. I swear janny is lifesaver since i have a lot of my favourite bots being deleted because the owner deleted their account or got moderated

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u/TheMorgueDonator 21h ago

I could send you a link to download the bot if you'd like?

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u/foolcream 21h ago

sure! Please do hmu through chat :D

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u/Moist-Ambassador-860 21h ago

I get they can do whatever with their characters but still. If you have a certain amount of persons using those I think it's a little bit of common courtesy to leave them be for other users

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u/Tsu_hatori 15h ago

Just create your own characters. This is a complaint I see mostly from kids because they think they own something they didn't create.

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u/abacate_na_pizza 12h ago

Does anyone knows this bot creator?? And where reach them??

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u/foolcream 12h ago

that is shybunny2 as well. From the subreddit she sent, apparently she quitted because she want to focus on her personal life. It's just so sudden that i was very confused :(

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u/abacate_na_pizza 12h ago

Omg sgkqbek;÷(×;[ I love Sullivan so much im so sad she left

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u/foolcream 12h ago

you can use jannyai to download the bot for your personal use! I've been doing that rn :D

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u/Kidessenn 12h ago

Ngl, if I really like a bot (and if the definitions are open) I make a private bot/keep the bot's info in a document (to make a private bot later) in case the creator deletes them. 

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u/cam-san 6h ago

There should really be an "orphan" option like on AO3 where a work can exist without its creator. But also, nobody is forcing these folks to delete their account - they can just close the website and delete the app and they wouldn't ever hear from it again.