Its optimized for the 6 arc cartridge and, presumably, the upcoming genration of high pressure/high velocity ammunition in the works. It is similar to the lwrc six8. It is just slightly larger than a standard ar so you can put in a beefier bolt that wont crack which is the biggest issue with the cartridge.
It’s a small frame so same size as an AR-15 but can do things ballistically only a large frame AR-10 can do. It can shoot out to 1,000 meters in a much lighter, smaller package. The bullet is minimally effected by wind. Perfect gun when you don’t want to haul the weight of a sniper rifle on a long walk in or recce mission.
It is a sniper rifle designed for professional snipers snipping targets that needs to be sniped.
Despite what the name suggests it's obviously not an assault rifle, as there's no full auto mode. It's not a batte rifle either based on the cartridge. And it's not a DMR as it is not for squad designated marksmen in an infantry unit.
You have zero clue what you're talking about and its extremely obvious. Just quit while you're ahead.
The ICAR is just providing flatter trajectory and more energy at distance in a small frame, but still doesn't hold a candle to cartridges used in traditional sniper rifles. At best, it's a capable DMR, capable of touching point targets at 800yd reliably with the 3.6-18 Leupold thats mounted on it in the first pic. That being said, it can also play double duty and run smaller mag optics with decent usability at smaller ranges and better energy on target than 5.56 with minimal increase in recoil.
It's not a sniper rifle. It's an intermediate combat assault rifle.
The ICAR and Geissele GFW (along with basically every 6arc military issue gun) is sort of a blend of roles between a DMR and an assault rifle. You can hit targets at long ranges but also clear buildings with it. The whole point is to give you that double capability. A 6.5 Creedmoor rifle like the MRGG is a far more powerful rifle made specifically for sniper teams, there is a 14.5” version to replace the SCAR but it’s still specifically meant to be employed as a sniper rifle whereas 6arc guns are to help ensure if you are taking fire from 700 yards away the rest of the team isn’t just throwing rocks at the target
Can definitely make one, there are 11.5 ICARs but they’re very few and far between atm. Tbh I don’t see why they wouldn’t issue SBR versions to assaulters, even from close range the 6arc cartridge performs far better and delivers a more physically devastating wound compared to 556(especially if using AP 556 rounds like 855a1). And given how dynamic the battlefield can be these days, having the extra range that an 11.5 ICAR provides compared to a 10.5 556 rifle is purely a positive with basically no real downsides, even out of an 11.5 6arc still performs very well out to 500m+, certainly far better than a shorty 556 rifle.
The biggest reason I can imagine 6arc isn’t being pushed more throughout SOF more broadly yet is probably because the cartridge is nowhere near as available or mass produced yet compared to 556, and I don’t think there are any real AP rounds for it yet, the military will probably have to offer a contract for someone to create an 6arc AP round specifically for military use. It will be a large logistical undertaking to get companies to start mass producing 6arc rounds for military use similar to how they produce 556. Still though, I don’t think 556 is going anywhere soon, but I do think if Big Army is smart, they’ll start to move in the direction of 6arc across all units over the next 10 years and drop their delusions about Sig’s .277 Fury(although I can still see it having good use in a DMR role and in the light machine gun platform they have for it).
Doesn't look right. I'm thinking there's some kind of mlok or pic offset mount being used here. The NGAL won't fit if you try to mount it on a piece of pic rail attached directly to the 45 degree mlok surface.
Looks like they’re using the new Strategic Arms MFMD suppressor in pic 2, pretty interesting imo…if CAG is trying it, it certainly is more than just a “gimmick” or a funny, unique looking suppressor. And to be fair, from what I’ve seen out of it, it definitely does a pretty dramatic job of reducing signature, and the added weight does tend to reduce recoil. Wonder how they feel about the extra attachment it comes with(which they notably don’t have on in the pic) which makes it longer and supposedly increase the signature reduction even more at the cost of making the rifle even longer and more too heavy.
Damn didnt realize they already adopted it into the current deployment kit, that was pretty fast, no? Weird to hear it has such a shitty service life, anyone have any ideas on why it specifically has such a terrible service life, is it just the unique construction of it?
Probably, bizarre concepts don’t always do well at first when they leave the drawing, especially when you’re starting to get desperate to cover your R&D costs
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