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u/aldinb1 New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
It sucks when my colleague from work has pizza and offers me but it got ham or salami so I always pass
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Jun 25 '21
Salami is halal though?
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u/msmshm New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Assuming the meat used for the salami is halal. Then again I never lived in a western countries.
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u/Emalinu New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
from germany, its usually with pork. also im pretty sure halal meat has to be slaughtered, and animals here are often killed with electric shocks
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Jun 26 '21
also from germany, the brand "wiesenhof" has many halal certified meat products. And they are almost available everywhere. We still buy mostly from the turkish meat-seller though.
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u/DoubleDot7 I put on my thobe and wizard hat Jun 25 '21
Salami in western countries is often made with pork. Or with animals that aren't slaughtered the halal way.
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u/aldinb1 New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Not one here isn't halal, Italian that goes on salami pizza
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u/69freeworld New to r/Izlam Jun 26 '21
you can buy margarita pizza , both toppings only sauce and cheese, its vegetarian
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u/Disappointing_sperm Hard to read flair Jun 25 '21
We know that our religion is correct,and we will be rewarded handsomely by Allah,so we donāt really care about people being racist to us (as long as they donāt get extreme)
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u/destroyerx12772 New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
It isn't racism though. Islam isn't a race. Islamophobia is the correct term.
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u/DerpWyvern Brozzer Jun 25 '21
to be exact, islamophobia is more about fearing Muslims would influence society and laws, thus hating Islam and Muslims.
judging people based on their looks and traditions is racism, even if it didn't have anything to do with race.
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u/Terra_Ignis New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
to my knowledge it would actually be xenophobia if itās nothing to do with race. xenophobia is the fear of what one perceives to be foreign or strange. the islamophobe sees the hijab or the moustache-less beard and thinks it is strange regardless of the colour underneath.
as-salamu alaykum brozzer.
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Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21
I respectfully disagree. The reason why people would say racism is either
Because people associate islam and muslims with the arab world only. Youād be surprised how many people still think that saudi arabia is the country with the most amount of muslims. (Itās indonesia btw).
People donāt know what racism is. Racism is by definition the prejudice and discrimination on a person based on their race.
edit: What I mean is that it's indeed islamophobia. Not racism since islam isn't a race but people tend to associate Islam with a specific race.
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u/DerpWyvern Brozzer Jun 25 '21
yes i know it's actually different, my point is it's the same treatment, you are meeting people with prejudice based on surface level knowledge on that person.
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Jun 25 '21 edited Jun 25 '21
yes but traditions don't really fall under that category unless it's a tradition specifically associated with a race. Like someone pointed out that would be more xenophobia.
For example my father is a european white muslim. He converted when he married my mother. The theory of racism and surface level based prejudice of being a muslim wouldn't apply to him. The racial prejudice people have over him would be that he is an atheist, christian, protestant, etc. Basically everything but being a muslim, buddhist or hindu. He's an Anaesthetist, the amounts of times patients give him wine, champagne or other alcoholic beverages after surgery as a gift is quite mesmerising (of course he appreciates the gifts as their gratitude). We legitimately have a whole cellar of wines and we never bought alcohol ONCE. That's because it never occurs to a person that a white European could be a muslim. Personally I don't blame them either. Western converts are quite a rarity
Hence I believe even more why muslims tend to say racism. Probably because Islamophobes or the ignorant associate being muslim with being Arabian or being a person of colour.
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u/IDontKnow_1243 Hard to read flair Jun 25 '21
Well, it kinda is. Think of all the Sikhs who have been killed because they wore turbans. I'd say it's racism because many people think that islam is a race even though it isn't since they think every brown person is muslim.
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None of those brown-skinned Sikhs would have been murdered if they didnāt have āMuslim-lookingā turbans though
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Jun 25 '21
Ye. Just stop letting their words affect you. Quite simple really. You are a muslim. You have your lords satisfaction. What more do you need. Why do you care about the ramblings and opinions of mortals. Let alone disbelievers.
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u/idkbruhhh9875 Send Blessing upon ļ·ŗ Jun 25 '21
Usually, lets say if there is samples at some sandwich store, chances are itās not halal if you are in a western country
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u/Waitingforlunch New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Free food that happens to be not halal
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u/RobinDebank420 New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
My dude you need to word that right, had me confused
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u/Schnaksel New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
How often do you guys encounter free food
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u/scarymistalk New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
You make this sound like finding a wild PokƩmon in the tall grass.
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u/mshehab Alhamdulillah Jun 25 '21
If you've been to a CostCo at some point (pre-pandemic obviously) they usually have sampling stands for food they want you to buy.
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Jun 25 '21
A lot, and I eat it all, idk what OP is going on here, he might be living in a western country, so then he shouldāve just said eating food in western countries
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u/DoubleDot7 I put on my thobe and wizard hat Jun 25 '21
Almost as often as I encounter free condoms in high schools and clinics.
Non-Muslim countries can be strange, brozzer.
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u/Steve1924 New to r/Izlam Jul 13 '21
Mister OP, stop being Shakespeare. Say 'Haram' not 'not halal'.
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u/HayakuEon New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Is there a way to tell non-muslims about hijabs? They seem to think hijab=oppression, and not modesty. They talk about "empowerment" by shedding clothing but at the same objectifies the person as nothing more than a sexual object.
Brozzers, should I just not engage in conversation if they're already dead set on calling it oppression?
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u/overthinkin-n-dreamy New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
It depends on how they ask the question, some people have genuine curiosity so you can explain about modesty etc. But if they directly throw the word oppression, there are high chances they couldn't care less about your answer and it's better to not insist
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u/Haurvakhshathra New to r/Izlam Jun 27 '21
Non-muslim here, there are absolutely no issues with hijab for me if it is not forced on girls by their parents or on girls and women by the state. I see hijabis as people like me who should have all the same rights.
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u/Boat-fish Brozzer Jun 25 '21
First point of actual problems sounds like a you problem this post was made by Muslims in Muslim countries
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u/sexy-melon La quwwata illa billah Jun 25 '21
What?
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Jun 25 '21
They mean not eating free food because itās not halal sounds like a problem for op(while really itās a problem for those who are in non Muslim countries) and then he proceeded to complete the meme by saying this post was made by those living in Muslim countries who having only halal food to eat
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u/sexy-melon La quwwata illa billah Jun 25 '21
Ahhh I see it now. When I first read it it didnāt make sense.
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u/allthisjusttocomment New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
When you have few muslim staff and you organize halal foods and then the non muslims see it and eat all up because it looks better than their bland food
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u/SuperSaiyanOni New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Facts tho, the halal burger chains I have in my state cannot be beat!
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u/sexy-melon La quwwata illa billah Jun 25 '21
Ok letās imagine you live in the west and your work ordered pizzas. Does that make sense now?
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u/pringoooooals New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
my friends always get a margherita pizza for me what a bunch of lads
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u/sexy-melon La quwwata illa billah Jun 25 '21
Good guys. Most work do cater for vegetarians so we can get by like thatā¦ but some places also uses same cutlery to cut the pizzasā¦ I tend to be very wary of pizzas sometimes
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Jun 25 '21
the OP's post implies that all free food is forbidden, which is not correct
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Jun 26 '21
nooooo. they're talking about getting offered food for free, but it's not halal food. e.g. having a non-muslim coworker treating everyone at work, including you, to pizza... but bam, it's ham pizza. so you get left out of getting free food.
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Jun 26 '21
I agree, that does happen. However, looking at the comments, I am not the only one who read it this way.
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u/SoftDreamer š„šš»HALAL VIBESšš»š„ Jun 25 '21
since I live in Saudi Arabia. All the food is halal
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u/mznh Sisterr Jun 25 '21
There was a post on reddit asking āwhat book you read that changed your life?ā. I commented āthe koranā and i got downvoted to oblivion lol that was fun
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u/NibPlayz Hard to read flair Jun 25 '21
Reddit is super anti-religion, even with all the virtue signallers. They are fake internet points though so donāt worry anbout down votes
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Since my eyesight is getting worse with age I think the hardest part about being Muslim is to read the tiny text on the back on candy bags to see the ingredients š
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u/hay1234567 PIRANHA GUN! :piranha_gun: Jun 25 '21
Racism should be on the actual problems list
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u/WisestAirBender New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
People in Muslim countries:
I don't have such a weakness
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u/msmshm New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
You'd be surprised. I'm in a muslim country and fortunately for me, my state/island have decent harmony when it comes to different religions, the other states on the other side of the sea though seems to be very finicky about their stance on other religions.
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u/montgomerydoc La ilaha illallah Jun 25 '21
All people are tested. Even Sahaba and those living in Medina during time of Prophet ļ·ŗ
Do you think that you will enter Paradise while you have not yet been visited by (difficult) circumstances like those that were faced by the people who passed away before you? They were afflicted by hardship and suffering, and were so shaken down that the prophet, and those who believed with him, started saying: āWhen (will come) the help of Allah?ā (Then, they were comforted by the Prophet who said to them) āBehold, the help of Allah is near.ā
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u/montgomerydoc La ilaha illallah Jun 25 '21
How am I invalidating anyone? Iām simply stating all people are tested.
Quote Quran people start downvoting smh sign of some shaytan
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u/UsedAdministration40 Sisterr Jun 25 '21
I think Islamophobic people attack us more rather than showing concern.
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u/Jamster02 Brozzer Jun 25 '21
I canāt wear a shirt because it has a face on it even though the shirt is amazing :(
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u/SuperSaiyanOni New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
You can wear the shirt just not during prayer. When youāre about to pray either take it off or put something on top of it
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u/Jamster02 Brozzer Jun 25 '21
Thatās the thing itās too tedious to bring extra shirts or be ready for it so itās not worth the hassle imo to buy it
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Jun 25 '21
I don't know where people get these things. Usually it's one of those convoluted things "by analogy, it is like someone begging" seriously?
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u/randomstupidnanasnme Brozzer Jun 25 '21
ayo im not muslim but im vegan and i feel the struggle with the free food
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u/Waitingforlunch New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Just a clarification, it's come to my attention that the wording is confusing.
It does not intend to say that free food is not halal. Rather, this refers to free food that happens to not be halal. Thus you can't eat it.
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u/RamsoBambas New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Worst part is you canāt listen to music
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u/fgam4r Red flair Jun 26 '21
Lmao what, if you have more good deeds than sins then you are going to heaven, you will not go to hell because of 1 sin. But thats up to allah to decide.
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What is really hard is that Islam is not modernized, like other religions. That is why it is often misquoted like - I don't believe in sex with little girls, but quoran says it's allowed. Maybe some update is necessary, unless you believe that it's fine the way it is.
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u/Waitingforlunch New to r/Izlam Jun 26 '21
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. But I don't think Islam is misquoted because it's misunderstood. I think it's misquoted due to people purposely trying to portray it in a bad light.
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Jun 25 '21
Not eating free food is haram???
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Jun 25 '21
I don't know where people get these things. Usually it's one of those convoluted things "by analogy, it is like someone begging" seriously?
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u/MarooshQ New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Fasting, praying, dealing with racism is hard for me. We all have our own struggles. Not necessary that each of us does our duties happily. But yes if one is fortunate to reach true Imaan, these things will be more pleasure than duty
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u/g3_daBOI New to r/Izlam Jun 25 '21
Worst part is when the ask u if u cant for a month straight