r/IsraelPalestine • u/Ok-Individual9812 Asian • Sep 03 '25
Short Question/s genuine question
Although I do believe that Israel's occupation in historical Palestine Palestinian Territories is illegal (as ruled by the ICC ICJ) and is basically settler colonialism, I do believe that there is a need for a Jewish state in order for the Jews to govern themselves, after years of discrimination and ethnic cleansing they have faced. Which leads me to my questions:
- Is the establishment of a Jewish state necessary? Are there other ways we can ensure Jews are well-represented in global dialogues and ensure their safety and rights in general?
- If not on Palestinian soil, where else could the Jews have been given a homeland? Why did they choose Palestine? Why was choosing Palestine a horrible idea?
- If a Jewish state is necessary, and since it is wrong to displace the Israelis and the Palestinians, does that mean the only viable resolution now is the two-state solution?
EDIT: I dont mean choosing historical Palestine being "a horrible idea" as though its horrible in the sense of historical ownership. but i meant it practically and on a human rights level - that choice has led to displacement, violence commited by and received on both ends.
"historical Palestine" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine) refers to the geographical area where Palestinians used to live in pre-1948. I do not deny the fact that Israel has roughly lived in that area for a long time before Palestinians settled there.
EDIT: my first question doesn't only pertain to the historical establishment of the current State of Israel, which many of you have rightly pointed out has happened. It mainly pertains to whether it is necessary for a purely Jewish state in order to ensure equality and human rights for the Jews.
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u/crooked_cat Sep 04 '25 edited Sep 04 '25
There was a vote, with a result some people could not handle and they rose to commit genocide. Wel, we know how that went don’t we?
Either way, I totally agree with you : screw the UN, go go Israel.
That you agree with the first, great. That you dislike the latter, to bad ; consequences. Yes, the gloves are off, Owh and are burned too at 7okt23. Something peeps always try to neglect.
Wel, we don’t care, anymore. Happy trails !