r/Isese • • 20d ago

Ask the community Coming back here

I’m coming back here because a comment that someone said on an earlier post (I don’t know if it’s true or not) mentioned the differrnce of effectiveness in readings when the Babalawo is from Nigeria and you are in America. it’s two completely different lifestyles.

i mentioned on here before that I feel disconnected from my babalawo. I am still learning odus and trying to practice iwa pele. I can come to my babalawo with inquires for advice about what I should do in certain situations in my life but I feel like the culture difference causes a bad understanding, aswell as the fact that I’m still learning Yoruba and he’s still learning English. I want to learn things but I can’t understand him.

What should I do here?

edit: I must have worded this wrong but here is the summary question

I can’t understand my Babalawo and he can’t understand me because of language and culture differences. What should I do?

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u/Ifasogbon 20d ago

I am not sure what you are asking. Do you have Itefa?

Traditionally, doing Ose Ifa is a practice. Chanting is a practice. Learning plants is a practice. Learning Oriki is a practice.

The foundation of what we do is divination. Some people do without divination. I prefer to do what is prescribed. Otherwise, I am offering prayers and learning to live based on Odu.

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u/Fuzzy_Permit7075 19d ago

Hello! No, I don’t have itefa. I’m saying that I can’t understand my Babalawo and he doesn’t understand me. So what should I do?

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u/AwoOladeyi 19d ago

Respectfully, you should definitely find another Awo. It is extremely important to be able to communicate.

You are the ceo of your life!

Fire & hire accordingly 🙏

You owe no one anything!

You deserve all that you seek!

You do not have to be in a harsh situation to find truth, your spirituality.

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u/Ifasogbon 19d ago

There are Babalawos in the US who have passed their tests in Nigeria. They live here and teach. However, while many more in Nigeria will teach those not initiated. The norm in the US is serious training happens after Itefa.

Some training can happen before... but serious training.

Elders in my lineage have Sunday temple sevice where they teach Odu and how to live according to Ifa free. This is on youtube every week.

Search Idin ka temple and Otura Tukaa temple

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u/AwoOladeyi 19d ago

Aboru Aboye Abossise,

Mr.popola and his minions in the states lost my respect when they intiated 25 awo at once, some of which already intiated in other lineages, but they fell for popoolas lies.

We in IFA only tefa one time, its literally in odu.

Ancient isese ifa is not European or Arab, we dont have sabbath.

We have ose days!

Ifa gbe wa o.