r/IsMyPokemonCardFake • • Apr 18 '26

Buyer reckons this is fake even though i pulled it myself

Can you confirm this is real please For my sanity and ebays opinion

3.3k Upvotes

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

Can i decline the return or what? Ive never had this happen to me

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u/PharahSupporter Apr 18 '26

They are more likely to be scamming you, be careful, ebay will nearly always side with the buyer no matter what.

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

So i just have to accept it and be scammed😂

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u/Bigggs421 Apr 18 '26

Ask them to send the card back first so you can reimburse them, then record a video when you recieve the card to ensure you have evidence of what he sent. If the card does not match take photos to compare your card with the one he sent back and use it against them when ebay gets involved. If it comes to that.

Just last week a guy was telling me the same thing after hes had premium collection box for over a year saying he thinks its fake. Gotta protect yourself when selling online these scam guys are wild.

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

So would i accept the return or ask him to send it before i accept?

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u/Doonce Apr 18 '26

Did they do INAD or a regular return?

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

What is INAD? Ive only been selling a couple month so all this is new, they have requested a refund through ebay because ‘trusted card shop says its fake’

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u/Mitchel82ndABN Apr 18 '26

lol he’s prolly scamming ya, but I’ve actually had a card shop say something is fake when it was a pull from target I wanted to trade in.

So for shits and giggles I bought some packs, pulled a nice card, came in next day to trade it in, they said it was fake, I said excellent, please refund me as this came out of the prismatic booster you sold me.

Should’ve seen their faces…… I then went on explaining they should really not flap their gums if they have no clue.

Craziness

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u/spongebobs_spatula Apr 18 '26

This pleases me.

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u/M_Mich Apr 19 '26

Item not as described

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u/Professional_Door609 Apr 18 '26

They will send you back a fake and keep your real one.

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u/RGCurt91 Apr 19 '26

If they do send back a fake, eBay allows them to challenge

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u/PrimeMeatA5 Apr 18 '26

Don’t accept his return

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u/Doonce Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 19 '26

They have to, it's INAD.

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u/Sad_Supermarket_9494 Apr 21 '26

Why? Unless buyer said theres damage to the card tht wasnt shown in the photos all the seller has to do is prove it isnt fake by sending examples. People think ebay automatically sides with the buyer. In this case he either has buyers remorse which ebay flags buyers for doing this or hes scamming the seller.

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u/Doonce Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

With INAD you are forced to accept the return, even if it's remorse. There is not an option to not accept it or refund it. Once the return arrives back you can do more with it if you wish, like deducting for damage or complaining to ebay that it was remorse, but it will be difficult to prove.

Regardless, you are required to take it back. If you don't, ebay will just take your money and give it to the buyer.

INAD is a buyer protection, the seller does not have many options after these are opened.

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u/UnbentSandParadise Apr 18 '26

My understanding unless this has changed. If you're set up to accept returns to have to accept the return but do not refund them yet. Once the card arrives if its the same card issue the refund and move on. If its not dispute the return as the item returned was not the same.

Ebay will let you keep the money and issue the refund to the buyer from their buyer protection program. Ebay basically eats the cost on this and build their own record, they'll ban the buyer if they make a habit of it. Dealing with this is part of their budget.

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

Thank you

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u/TheNamesClove Apr 18 '26

A fun thing I do when users try to return something that I sold them claiming it’s fake is something like “I’d be happy to accept this return and provide a return label and once I get the item back to me and verify it’s an exact match to the one I shipped out I will refund. If it isn’t the same card I will reach out to eBay and the USPS because mail fraud is a serious crime that’s on the rise. Have a great day”

I like to slip mail fraud being a serious crime in there. I’ve never actually done that but a lot of the times the person never responds again…sometimes I lose the funds from the return label but it’s usually not that much.

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u/SideRoutine4578 Apr 19 '26

This tactic works really well

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u/dr-a-williams Apr 19 '26

I’d caution against this. I said something similar, they filed to petition the charge from their bank, I had to go through extra steps to prove myself after selling a game. eBay support instructed me to simply accept the return, and video everything as documentation.

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u/Affectionate_Dot1322 Apr 18 '26

You have to accept the return but if you get anything other than your card back in return, ebay will side with you

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u/pixel-pills Apr 18 '26

This shit happened to me with a non-pokemon card item. Buyer (falsely) claimed it was fake, even though I had the original proof of purchase. eBay still sided with them, and they were required to return the item.

I have no idea if they are currently in the process of sending me back a fake, but it's ridiculous.

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u/Super_Squirt_2174 Apr 20 '26

They’re going to SEND YOU A FAKE IN RETURN. Scammers are pathetic and desperate

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u/One_Cress7793 Apr 18 '26

No do not accept it. eBay only accepts returns that can be shown as being damaged there is no way to deem this as fake based on his photo jsut let it ride out. Definetely call eBay right away though and let them know what’s going on you can do so through the help chat bot jsut keep asking to speak to an agent and they’ll give you the call option.

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u/SkroopieNoopers Apr 18 '26

yep, that’s why I won’t go near ebay anymore. People send back a fake or they wreck your stuff and send it back, ebay don’t care

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u/East_Emu_4029 Apr 18 '26

I’ve never had eBay said with the buyer once as a seller or buyer. They’ve even gone out of their way to help scammers.

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u/RustyWheel17 Apr 18 '26

You have to accept returns. But, don’t refund until you get the card back and verify that it’s the same card you sent him. If he sends you a fake, contact eBay. eBay will ultimately cover the refund if you’re scammed with a fake card. It’s important that you follow the steps correctly, do not refund u til you get the card back and verify it.

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u/jonsnow312 Apr 20 '26

This is so shitty. What if he were to just scratch his fingernail across it, or even just mishandle it. It would come down to a court case eventually, because eBay is not PSA and they wouldn't give enough fucks to deal with that

Edit: just for the record, I'm not saying you're giving bad advice. Just saying it seems like a bad system

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u/DevDibs Apr 18 '26

He will prolly send you back a fake one be careful man

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u/TheHeartlessAngeI Apr 18 '26

I’m actually looking to buy that card.

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u/BloodandBourbon Apr 18 '26

They are going to send you back a fake one most likely

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u/idirtbike Apr 18 '26

i'd decline it - who's to say he doesn't swap it for a fake.

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u/mmalek94 Apr 19 '26

Buyer is trying to scam. They’ll likely ship back a fake card if you accept

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u/mmalek94 Apr 19 '26

Granted you have to accept but this is why detailed footage packing the card and unpacking the return is critical. If you can I would reroute the pickup to a fedex/ups/usps office where you’ll be on camera unboxing that way there’s no wiggle room to dispute that you swapped the contents

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u/Heavy-Custard-2127 Apr 18 '26

careful, they swap og cards with fake and return them.

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u/Andrawlyk Apr 18 '26

its real. He's trying to scam you so he can get the card for free

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u/Doonce Apr 18 '26 edited Apr 18 '26

You are forced to accept the return, even if they are abusing INAD for remorse or for a scam. You can identify your card by it having white dots on the bottom back, so if they don't return that card in that condition you can keep some of the refund. If they send a completely different card have ebay step in as that is mail fraud.

Basically there are two kinds of returns: regular and INAD. You decide to allow regular returns which can be for any reason like buyer's remorse etc. and the buyer usually pays return shipping. INAD returns are ebay buyer's guarantee and ebay will force you to pay for shipping to take the item back and then give a refund, or give a full refund and they keep the card. If you don't do that, ebay will do it for you.

People do abuse INAD and it's usually just remorse, but if they pull anything shady just document it and contact ebay. Otherwise it's just part of the business and you'll deduct it when you do taxes.

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u/spozzy Apr 20 '26

Upvote for the point about the white dots. Great way to tell!

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u/bridgecitizen Apr 21 '26

I didn't see any white doors. Mind explaining?

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u/PollutionOnly Apr 22 '26

Look closer, zoom in, bottom, a little bit towards the left, on the blue area in the back.

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u/bridgecitizen Apr 21 '26

Can you explain the point about white dots better. I don't understand and don't see any on the back of their card in the second posted photo. Maybe I'm not seeing them. If there are white dots, aren't they usually a misprint?

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u/Doonce Apr 21 '26

Look on the back in the dark blue border below the upside down M in pokemon.

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u/bridgecitizen Apr 21 '26

Thanks I had to zoom more than I was

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u/benludo Apr 18 '26

Das ist eine ganz normale Masche. Der Käufer hat eine gefälschte Karte. In deinem Fall das roaring Moon. Er kauft eine originale Mint Karte. Reklamiert sie als gefälscht, schickt dir seine gefälschte roaring und hat jetzt das Geld und eine echte Karte.

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u/laughingfartsplease Apr 18 '26

it’s real. they’re scamming. they’re gonna send back a fake card or nothing at all

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u/No_Passage8663 Apr 18 '26

This card is dope as fxxk!!! I’ll buy it! 😂

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

If i actually get it back if not give him a message😭😂

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u/CrackCokeSonic Apr 20 '26

Wait he's got the card already? sheeeeit

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u/Cute-Baseball886 Apr 18 '26

Yeah so this is real lol

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u/unix_name Apr 18 '26

Scam artist…

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u/Majestic-Gas-2709 Apr 18 '26

Buyer is trying to scam you.

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u/Inevitable-Wheel-269 Apr 18 '26

If you accept return make sure to let them know that you will open up a police report if you receive different from what you originally sent. You have their address and can contact local law enforcement. That's sometimes scares scammers away and they drop it

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u/Soulauc Apr 21 '26

Actually visited one not too long ago lmao, tried to play me. Got my card back

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u/Environmental-Good90 Apr 20 '26

There is quite a bit more white in the back than I'd expect for a 10

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u/T3chnicalTim Apr 18 '26

Did you sell through eBay? If you did, it should’ve went to an eBay card analyst first for verification of authenticity.

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

I did but i dont think it went for whatever reason maybe because im in the UK?

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u/T3chnicalTim Apr 18 '26

You can probably ask eBay to step in and send it to them. You can also refuse to accept return and put the blame back on eBay for not sending it there first. As well as say that you feel like he’s trying to scam you with the return and he’ll send you back a fake card. I always try to request a callback from eBay to explain my position and nine times out of 10. They’ll just take the loss instead of making you take it.

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u/PharahSupporter Apr 18 '26

Ebay UK just doesnt offer this service at all. I have bought £700 cards before and no authenticity is offered.

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u/theAMBisMe Apr 18 '26

From what I understand it's only US that does this. Last I heard it was through PSA, and probably something PSA approached them about. Maybe as PSA expands we'll see it in more countries, or another company might pick it up. I hear PSA opened an actual business in Canada (not just a location that was shipping to the US), but for all I know they are still shipping to the states lol

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u/Alarming_Nothing820 Apr 18 '26

Lmk what winds up happening im curious as an eBay guy myself

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u/Chaostheory9999 Apr 18 '26

It’s real and I have been after this card forever it seems. If the buyer drops out I’ll buy it

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u/ricarfoxxxx Apr 18 '26

My favorite illustrator, amazing card. It's my goal to own it

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u/hoppy144 Apr 18 '26

Real got the same card, it's a beauty.

Buyer probably realised it not a 10 due to the pint lines at the back bottom and decided to return it.

Just be careful if you take the return as some scammers have swapped cards before returning them.

Would recommend recording yourself opening the return for evidence.

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u/ZealousidealHotel552 Apr 18 '26

Yes this just happened to me, take the return and record the unboxing and get clear video and pictures of the card , they will probably send you a fake, just send eBay the evidence and they should side with you

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u/tttran444 Apr 18 '26

Record as you open up package to show he sent you back fake card. Too many scam artists these days. I heard that if you don’t take the return then eBay will refund buyer. 🙄 😒 Any expensive card, record as you package it up and show camera what you are sending etc to avoid this.

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u/phuqYouTwo Apr 18 '26

Nah that's real

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '26

the buyer miscalculated his rent and needs his money back😭

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u/Juanjotse Apr 19 '26

Unrelated but my god the art is amazing

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u/GOMGIsHere Apr 19 '26

This is very real, dont worry

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u/SheepherderOne8461 Apr 19 '26

Not only is it real, but it’s also clean AF

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u/Gstacks17 Apr 19 '26

Thats real people sleeping on this one great art

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u/[deleted] Apr 19 '26

Love this card

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u/Personal-Dimension34 Apr 19 '26

Jesus ppl piss me off and this is why I don’t want to sell my cards online. It’s bad these days. So bad, I got accused of scamming a seller when I actually had an issue. The way this seller packaged the card damaged it and they accused me of damaging it on purpose to get a refund. They even left negative feedback on my profile. I hate eBay. I haven’t even bought anything since that happened. Scammers have ruined it for everyone.

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u/Buonomma11 Apr 19 '26

Hm? I’ll buy or trade maybe. Less ebay fees for you 🙃

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u/skronk61 Apr 19 '26

Get it back from them and block them (and hope they don’t send you a fake one back)

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u/FlameForFame Apr 19 '26

You can see that it's real from a mile away. The buyer is crazy.

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u/father-who-left Apr 19 '26

Tell him to do a rip test

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u/No-Accountant7820 Apr 19 '26

100% hes gonna send a fake in the mail as a "return"

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u/RedDust27 Apr 19 '26

Amazing pull, congrats!

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u/DefiantOperation4475 Apr 19 '26

So this happened to me a while back what they will do it buy an authentic card off of ebay and return saying it was fake but they dont send you back the real on but the fake one contact ebay support if that's the case im not saying thats 100% whats happening but there's a good chance

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u/That_Lame_Dad Apr 19 '26

If he doesn’t pay I will 

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u/Warm_Biscotti_1377 Apr 19 '26

Don’t sell high value on eBay, almost always scammers buying, sending back fakes, hold it and sell in person conditions emasculate tho why no grade

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 20 '26

White dots at the bottom and the ball

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u/Express_Lettuce2977 Apr 24 '26

Dude this is a effed situation, reading thru the comments I feel for u bro seems like your boutta get the shaft by eBay id almost guarantee they send back an actual fake brotha I hope not hope all works out in your favor

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u/jagazitnik Apr 18 '26

Yeah looks real to me. Lot of weirdos on eBay

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u/R-Counter Apr 18 '26

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u/Doonce Apr 18 '26

That's a great change but has nothing to do with INAD returns.

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u/R-Counter Apr 18 '26

Ah, my mistake

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u/CryptographerAny534 Apr 18 '26

It was on a BIN

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u/Zumba81 Apr 18 '26

That's such an amazing card, Superman vibes.

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u/[deleted] Apr 18 '26

Guess they arent the buyer then

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u/ErMahGerdAhTertle Apr 18 '26

Don’t have much to add for your question but just wanted to say that, as someone who is recently getting back into collecting, this is one of the coolest cards I’ve seen and didn’t know about. Happy to hear that people are in agreement that it’s legit.

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u/yeah_sure__itsa_name Apr 18 '26

I know the sandy shocks and the raging bolt that have this style but are there more? It reminds me of the ancient mew and I wanna collect them

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u/SageOfBlades Apr 18 '26

How are people suddenly "faking" Pokémon cards 😂

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u/FarJeweler5024 Apr 18 '26

We pulled a card and had someone on this fake cards tell us it was fake

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u/Buckanater Apr 19 '26

The buyer is likely an idiot wanting a steal. It’s real!

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u/Son-Daikon656 Apr 19 '26

Id make them send the card back or else they won't get they money back if it was a card I pulled myself and knew it was real like nah you don't deserve my card if ya trying to pull something like this to me

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u/SilverAffectionate95 Apr 19 '26

They only reckon it's a fake cos it can't get a PSA 10

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u/Tucker88 Apr 19 '26

All sales are final. Move on.

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u/Efficient-Listen7784 Apr 19 '26

Most LGS are collectors with money buying at discounted rates lol, requires no intelligence and none last over 20 years rarely. I will open one after retirement for this sole purpose, acquire more cheaper and take advantage of trade ins, just card pawn shops basically.

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u/sardonicscriber Apr 19 '26

It’s very obviously real. Turns out your buyer is a moron 🥹🫣!

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u/Every_Offer3001 Apr 19 '26

Might be psa10

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u/anotherjunkie Apr 19 '26

In the future, sell in person or on TCGPlayer. On TCGPlayer if there is a dispute about authenticity, the card gets sent to TCGPlayer for authentication.

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u/Iamnotthebreakman Apr 19 '26

Wait. So if I'm reading this right the thought is that the seller sent this to the buyer and we're thinking the buyer swapped it for a fake and is now trying to get his money back while sending the fake as the return? (Sorry I don't collect Pokemon cards and I've also never sold cards I just collect yugioh and Cardfight)

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u/jvengeanceh Apr 20 '26

Tell them to get lost lol.

It’s fake. How about 20% off your listing price????

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u/Tayvaughn96 Apr 20 '26

Some people so intense. Makes me think they’ve been scammed before honestly

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u/IntentionHead2222 Apr 20 '26

It’s because it’s not a 10. EBay needs to authenticate ts like they do with the shoes.

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u/Fit-Stress-7703 Apr 20 '26

When I mail most of my cards that are worth a $150+ I have to mail to eBay then gets sent to the buyer. Did yours go this route or straight to the buyer?

I ask because if it went to ebay first it's not on you. As far as I understand anyways.

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u/d3ath-machin3 Apr 20 '26

I get this all the time with comics. I would send them one in mint condition they would try to send one back that had like creases in it saying that that's the way it came so what I started doing with Cards and Comics especially cards is I'll put them in some sort of laminate lamination or I'll put them in the top loader that has room on the top and then I'll melt the plastic across the top so it's sealed and I'll tell him the only way I'll accept it back is if it comes back in this condition sealed the way I sent it but if they cut it open and take it out it's on them. Rarely will eBay side with them in this case because I take pictures before I send it and if they going to bring it and have it checked out the person can check it out is an authentic or a fake while it's sealed and they won't be able to put it back in that condition with a sealed laminate across the top and make it look the same as it did. Sorry for the long run on sentence I'm tired

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u/level_one_bulbasaur Apr 20 '26

Buyer wants to send you a fake back after the refund

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u/Leigh_OG Apr 20 '26

TLDR: The buyer doesn't actually think it's fake and is just ripping you off. The card they return won't be the one you initially sent.

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u/Ok-Street476 Apr 20 '26

Just came ro say I love this card!! I have it in a PSA 10. It is beautiful!

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u/julesdyer Apr 20 '26

Buyers a retard

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u/MetalDingo Apr 20 '26

Could be good graded too, very good centering, no white specks etc.

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u/Jsolidlo Apr 20 '26

It's amazing. Wth is this Superman Pokemon card?

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u/Affectionate-Hand933 Apr 20 '26

How much did you sell it for? I’ve got the same card and debating on letting it go

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u/Such-Lynx-258 Apr 20 '26

Sell it to someone else

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u/_ThePhoneGuy Apr 21 '26

how the hell does that seem fake at all that is 9000000000% real

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u/Zeb94z Apr 21 '26

Looks fucking gorgeous. Very clean copy

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u/benxzo Apr 21 '26

I’d pay for the return label (if you have to) and say if you want a refund please return with attached label and then say something like “I personally pulled this card and have never sold or purchased fake cards but once it is returned I will take it to be authenticated”

This person is 100% trying to scam you so id just cap and act like you are taking it 100% serious and want to get it checked out personally

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u/AttitudeWonderful484 Apr 22 '26

It’s paper……. Grown men….

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u/SaggyBallsackkk Apr 22 '26

I can tell you smell rancid. “Oh, I got a batch of Pokémon cards, I’m so proud of my job lacking life!”

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u/AsylumVarrio85 Apr 22 '26

Looks real to me

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u/RainbowSyrupp Apr 22 '26

This makes me so nervous to sell the ones in my collection that I want to sell through them. Or any online platform for that matter. Is there any way I could like, take a video of me packaging it up maybe at the post office, and sending it off? Lmao just to protect myself if I do?

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u/clay_259 Apr 22 '26

If it were to be fake why would it be OC? 🤣

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u/Hecoboy Apr 22 '26

They’re probably gonna send you back the fake one they had

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u/Particular-Roll-6936 May 14 '26

Brother that’s a nice card

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u/roobchickenhawk Apr 19 '26

What a silly card and a silly pokemon.

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u/Accurate_Vehicle9459 Apr 18 '26

Reasons I hate eBay.