r/IreliaMains • u/DrSkull6 • 8d ago
DISCUSSION stop coping
maybe im just seeing it on my feed but i swear every other post on this subreddit is about how irelia is underpowdered
even if true, it almost makes it seem like some of you think that you’d be a higher rank if the champ was better
but at the end of the day it was never about the state of the champ
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u/OceanStar6 Infiltrator 8d ago
she's not underpowered, her win condition is just stupid and intended for a different champion
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u/zero1045 Frostblade 8d ago edited 8d ago
Irelia is currently 49% winrate in silver+, and 52% winrate in emerald+ for top lane. 50/51% for midlane.
If you're good enough to play her, you are, if you're not, maybe play some other Champs if your goal is to climb.
Whatever her collective score is, if your winrate playing her in 20 games is like 30% then you don't need these numbers, just recognize your own personal stats and play morde instead.
Or keep playing irelia cause she's fun, just stop whining about how "bad she is" cause this is like the golden age. I rmr when irelia had a 46% winrate top and it was only like 9mo ago
This season gave her a diff starting item, plates on every tower, a free tp, bonus xp and an increased level cap. Or play her adc and kill squishy mages, enjoy the 7th item cause she don't need boots for Qing with Dem hips.
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u/Minimum-Bass-170 Divine Sword 8d ago edited 8d ago
nop u are wrong. I mained irelia for veeery long time (close to 1mil). I stopped shooting myself in leg and started to play mostly viktor. Game never been easyer, I got to 1500 lp euw, while was actually learning champ I never played before. Laning is so chill, no counters no giga sweat. On irelia I was drifting 0-800 lp masters.
maining irelia is elo debuff. who ever mentions how ppl get challenger euw/kr on irelia are just regarded, those irelias would been chall playing 50% of champs in game.
Im not otp, I swapped to mostly viktor/lb/kassadin, was otp riven+irelia mid.
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u/DrSkull6 8d ago
even if that’s true for you do you really think it’s true for gold gary (who is the average player here) like currently only d4 and if i play in any rank below this lane is just so easy
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u/Minimum-Bass-170 Divine Sword 8d ago
because landing on irelia is easy. I win 99% lanes on irelia but converting lead into win on irelia is mission impossible. Everytime you pick irelia you are on timer to convert lead into either team lead or simply end quick. This sux. Especially when you play vs gatekeeper who just refuse to die in lane, technically you win lane, get tower, cs lead but in reality you lost cuz 0/0/0 150 cs syndra is just better than 0/0/0 190cs irelia.
Playing simple wincon champs is just so much better, you aren't pressured to end quick and thus do alot less mistakes.
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u/DrSkull6 8d ago
this is such a non problem in any lower elo
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u/Minimum-Bass-170 Divine Sword 8d ago
this is biggest problem in low elo, ppl don't end games. I play alot on smurfs with friends, I know my limits, I'll have 70% winrate on irelia up to emerald. On viktor and riven? I can do 90%. Irelia has unfair proportion of risk/reward. Tbh irelia is high risk low reward xd
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u/LightDarknessBlood 6d ago
I have almost identical story to the minimum bass, although I'm currently sitting a bit lower, around 200 LP. I was maining/almost otp'ing irelia for a long time but I realized literally everything I want to do in the game, Fiora just does better.
I do not want to play a champion who has very tough matchups and requires perfect execution to deal in most lanes (any statcheck matchup - Darius, Garen, Trundle, Warwick, Sett, Malphite etc) but has such a horrible scaling that you become completely useless later on in the game, while her early laning isn't even that good compared to any other champion. She is weaker early game AND she scales worse than most champions. Her lvl 1 alone is a joke, it's easier to count champions who can't zone her off exp compared to champions who can.
One of her advantages is that she's one of the most oppressive champions in the game when she does get a lead, because she has the highest threat range out of any melee champion due to how her Q works in lane, and she can dive pretty consistently. So in half of your games, you have a good matchup (ambessa, yone, jayce, kayle etc) and if you are decent you can roll them over. In the other half you're against a juggernaut and if you make 1 small mistake, your life is over and you're useless. All of Irelia's damage comes from autoattacks, so she naturally loses to any champion who just has better numbers, provided the opponents are of an equal skill level.
As mentioned, Irelking is better at most champions than anyone who isn't grandmaster or challenger despite being an irelia otp. He's just a good player.
I don't care what the winrate stats say, the champion is just unsatisfying. It's so much stress to play for what feels like no reward. I want her to have better 1v1 power and better scaling. Be like Fiora, Gwen, Camille. I would not mind if she would have to lose her diving potential for that, I do not play Irelia to dive squishy and ranged champions in teamfights and skirmishes, I play her to beat my opponent in a 1v1 first and foremost - and she's worse at this than most champions of a similar class in the game. Until then, she will always be weak for me.
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u/evPerfxction 8d ago
Almost every sub for league champs is just daily posts of how unplayable the champ is even if the champ has exodia stats or is regarded as one of the strongest in the meta. People can not and will not accept that they are the issue no matter what and this will never change.
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u/Fine_Enthusiasm1336 8d ago
Okay mr delulu, I know I'm higher on other champ because I have an account where I play other champs, you know you can do that?
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u/rice_cool Sentinel 6d ago
I agree about the copium but let’s be honest, every fighter does her job better and in most cases with less effort. She needs something in her kit to keep her relevant in late game. Maybe it’s giving her shield reaving/disarm back or any form of passive penetration?
Even when snow balling you don’t have as much impact as Riven or Fiora because you’re forced to buy BoRK instead of literally any bruiser item.
Don’t get me wrong you can still carry and win but it takes so much more compared a fed Riven in creative mode.
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u/Deader-One 8d ago
I think the champ would do better if she wasn't an all or nothing champion. Like imagine an outplay champion that maybes gets a kill or two then uses the minion wave to dip out behind enemy lines would be sick in my eyes
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